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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by DBWhite View Post
    I just had to register and comment on this most interesting post. I am a veteran of the Viet Nam Conflict, to be exact a non-com in the 5th Special Forces, a veteran of the 1967 Tet Offensive.
    I am going to let it suffice to say that for months I was in doubt about whether or not I was going to have a future or not and certainly both my M-16 and my sidearm were my constant companions and a source of confidence in those environs, however your post (and the responses given to this point) are undoubtedly some of the most dickless remarks I have ever heard.
    Don't get me wrong, I know how absolutely terrifying it must have been to hear these females use the f-word, in anger no less. I know that were I confronted with that I would feel the need for a large bore, high velocity handgun and some serious body armor.
    Boy, the temptation to open fire on these patients must have been overwhelming, had you been able to thin them out you could have followed up at the local mental hospital and possibly even worked your way down to eliminating some of those seniors down at the senior center. Talk about improving the community and making a statement to all of the degenerates who dare to occupy our space.
    The one thing that scares me more than all of the thieves, petty and otherwise, degenerates, and defectives at these so-called recovery programs are losers like you and your buddies, carrying your artificial cocks around itching for a chance to not look as scared as you feel. It won't work - what you are missing cannot be replaced by an inanimate object, regardless of caliber and configuration. Please, just try not to hurt anyone with it.




    Dan White, unarmed and unafraid in one of the 10 largest cities in the USA

    He who makes himself an ass, should not take it ill when men ride him - Thomas Fuller
    Dear Dan-

    Off the top, first and foremost, 1) Thank you for your service. People like you and my Dad, fought for this country to preserve freedom, and to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution. Said Constitution / Bill of Rights states that I have an inalienable right to defend myself. The 2nd Ammendment states that my right to bear arms, shall not be infringed. 2) I carry concealed, legally, to protect myself and my family. 3) I had no idea I was renting a car next to a methadone clinic. There are people on drugs and criminals who also carry concealed weapons (illegally). If the situation had gotten to the point where someone were to come at me with a knife or gun, then I would have certainly used all means to protect myself. With that said, if you read my post, you will notice that I never had the need to use or show that I was carrying a weapon. You will also note in my post that there were two very large males involved (both approx 6FT 4" and big). You will also note that I retreated away from the situation.....hardly the sign of a dickless guy bent on shooting people at mental hospitals or drug clinincs. 4) If you have such a problem with freedom loving people exercising their right to carry concealed and their right to free speach, then why Sir, do you even bother visiting this forum??? 5) I have taken the liberty to steal your quote from Thomas Fuller. It certainly applies.

    He who makes himself an ass, should not take it ill when men ride him - Thomas Fuller

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    Dan,

    WOW!! Starting with the name calling with the first post! Read the forum rules!!

    Most of us here are civil law abiding citizens who legally excersise their 2nd amendment right. Most of us also hope that we are never put into a situation that would require the use of deadly force. I try to avoid those types of situations.. i.e. avoiding bad areas of town, refraining from using hand gestures while driving, etc...etc... Avoid potentially volatile situations and you will most likely never be in a lethal force encounter. Most of us have been in a situation that made us realize that the world is full of head cases that can strike anywhere at anytime. Some of us have not been in these terrifying situations but realize there is danger out there. They want the assurance that they can even the odds should the need arise. The OP stated that he did not know he was next to a methadone clinic... these places do not have signs that advertise... The OP also stated that he retreated from a possible confrontation with the combatants... He did everything right! So my question is, what makes him a dickless loser????

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBWhite View Post
    I just had to register and comment on this most interesting post. I am a veteran of the Viet Nam Conflict, to be exact a non-com in the 5th Special Forces, a veteran of the 1967 Tet Offensive.
    I am going to let it suffice to say that for months I was in doubt about whether or not I was going to have a future or not and certainly both my M-16 and my sidearm were my constant companions and a source of confidence in those environs, however your post (and the responses given to this point) are undoubtedly some of the most dickless remarks I have ever heard.
    Don't get me wrong, I know how absolutely terrifying it must have been to hear these females use the f-word, in anger no less. I know that were I confronted with that I would feel the need for a large bore, high velocity handgun and some serious body armor.
    Boy, the temptation to open fire on these patients must have been overwhelming, had you been able to thin them out you could have followed up at the local mental hospital and possibly even worked your way down to eliminating some of those seniors down at the senior center. Talk about improving the community and making a statement to all of the degenerates who dare to occupy our space.
    The one thing that scares me more than all of the thieves, petty and otherwise, degenerates, and defectives at these so-called recovery programs are losers like you and your buddies, carrying your artificial cocks around itching for a chance to not look as scared as you feel. It won't work - what you are missing cannot be replaced by an inanimate object, regardless of caliber and configuration. Please, just try not to hurt anyone with it.

    Dan White, unarmed and unafraid in one of the 10 largest cities in the USA

    He who makes himself an ass, should not take it ill when men ride him - Thomas Fuller
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Tet Offensive was a military campaign during the Vietnam War that began on January 31, 1968. Forces of the National Liberation Front for South Vietnam, or Viet Cong, and the People's Army of Vietnam, or North Vietnamese army, fought against the forces of the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam), the United States, and their allies.

    Dan, get your facts straight.

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    I think the troll crawled back under his bridge.
    Victory rewards not the army that fires the most rounds, but who is the more accurate shot. ---Unknown

  6. Hi Folks

    I hope you will allow me to register and comment briefly as I too noticed this post yesterday because I have a Google News Alert for articles, blogs, etc regarding methadone treatment. Usually it is mostly news articles that come through but for whatever reason the OP's post came through and I decided to read it and would like to comment if I may. I am not a concealed handgun owner though I respect the right to do so, so I won't be staying as a member.

    I am a Certified Methadone Advocate as well as having graduated from chemical dependency counseling school and I have a college degree in professional nursing. I am 45, married, 3 children, own my home, work full time, pay my taxes, volunteer my time to help others, attend church, and live a pretty normal American life. I am also a methadone patient--have been for 5 years now. It has saved my life. And in return for that, I try to do what I can to educate folks about MMT, how it works, and what it can and cannot do to help people.

    Now, I don't imagine you are too interested in a full course of methadone information, lol, as that is not the point of this forum so I won't bore you with all that. However I did want to respond to some of the remarks made--particularly the ones about all the people "waiting for their fix".

    Clinics are often overcrowded. This is due to the fact that so many towns raise holy hell when a clinic tries to locate there, based on false assumptions that crime will increase (it goes down), property values will fall (studies done with real estate records show this is untrue) and that people from the clinic will be driving about in an intoxicated state (stable MMT patients do not feel any "high" or euphoria from methadone whatsoever, and all studies done show they are able to drive without impairment). Due to the overcrowding issues some clinics may have pts waiting outside to dose--and this is unfortunate both for the patients who would like a measure of privacy and for the neighboring businesses--but is not the fault of the patients.

    The fact that some were smoking certainly strikes me as no different from the rest of the population--some smoke, some do not. I personally have never smoked. And the "waiting for their fix" comment is totally incorrect. WIthout going into detail which I am sure you are not looking for, not only do the pts feel no euphoric effects from the medication once stable (1-2 weeks into treatment), it also blocks any effects they would feel from any other opioid drugs, including heroin, oxycontin, morphine, etc--so it is not a "legal high" as many think. It simply controls withdrawal symptoms and enables the patient to feel normal by replacing the missing endorphins (the natural opiates the body manufactures) which are often no longer produced in long term opioid addicts even after years of being clean, with a synthetic version.

    If anyone is truly interested in how this works I would be happy to speak with them but the point I wanted to get across is this--methadone pts come from all walks of life. We have attorneys, nurses, pharmacists, businessmen and women, soccer moms, college students, etc. Over 75% of those pts are now there for help with Rx drug addictions, not heroin addictions. Methadone is the most successful method of treating opioid addiction by far, and abstinence based rehabs have a success rate that is sadly quite abysmal--around 10%--for those with long term opioid addictions. Not all MMT pts require long term treatment but many do because of the permanent damage sometimes sustained by the brain's ability to produce endorphins. Science is discovering more and more that addiction is a brain disease and that medical intervention is often needed in addition to counseling, etc for optimal results.

    Most towns welcome 12 step meetings with no problem (AA and NA) even though they often have new or relapsed members who are currently using (and possibly driving) and come from the exact same pt. population as MMT patients, with a much higher risk of relapse into illicit drug usage. The discrimination and assumptions MMT pts face on a daily basis is truly overwhelming, despite the fact that the White House ONDC declares it the most successful method of treating opioid addiction. I think most folks just do not understand so I do try to share what I have learned with them. Are there some "unsavory" types there? Sure--just as there are at just about anyplace you may go--but most of the patients are there trying to get better and live a normal life and are hurrying off to work or care for their families. You likely work with some of them, see them at your local stores, in church, at your kid's schools, living next door even--without being aware--and you might be quite surprised.

    Anyhow I thank you all for listening to my diatribe and will now retreat. Best wishes to you all.

  7. #16

    Who CCP People Really Are

    First of all, as a fellow member of the military, I would like to thank Mr. Dan for his service to our country during Vietnam.

    Most CCP people are first and foremost law abiding citizens (more law abiding than the average American, statistically speaking... if you doubt me, please click on the link in my signature).

    CCP holders carry to be prepared "just in case." We do not want to be victims. Let me relate two quick stories.

    While I was visiting New Orleans in 2004, I was robbed in broad daylight by 4 homeless people as I walked along the bank of the Mississippi with a NOLA Police Officer approximately 100 feet away. The cop simply looked my way, saw what was going on, and walked away (I am not bashing police, my uncle is an LAPD officer and many of my good friends are cops, but there are some who dont care or look the other way). I feared for my life and the life of my then gf. Back then, I was uneducated when it came to concealed carry laws, and I was actually somewhat anti-gun (a result of that ex's influence, no doubt - heck, I didn't even know that someone could CC legally). After that incident, when I realized that the only person I could actually depend upon to protect my safety and the safety of my family and friends was ME, I decided to become more educated on the matter. I resolved to never be a victim again.

    In 2007, I recieved my first permits to carry concealed (a non-resident permit from the state of ME and NH) while I was stationed in Maine.

    The weekend before Christmas in 2009, I had to go to work one evening (I am currently stationed in the bayous of Louisiana). It was approximately 1830 (6:30 pm for those of you who are civies). I exited the building where I work (A federal building) and entered my car. Unfortunately, this particular federal building is in the middle of a very bad neighborhood - drugs, crime, prostitution - heck, I've been solicited to buy drugs in uniform at 3 in the afternoon!), and I cannot carry into work, so I leave my gun locked up in my car. This evening, as I sat in my car taking a phone call before I hit the road back home, a man approached the driver side door. He was about 3 inches from my window, peering in, checking out my vehicle's interior, and asking for some money "for food." At this time, my gun was in my lap as I had not reholstered it yet. He then put his hand on my car window, looked into my lap, looked my face, threw his hands in the air and said "sorry dude" and walked away. The next morning, the local paper said that two people were robbed at knifepoint on the same street just 30 minutes after I had left.

    Yes I was scared. My bum was so tight you couldnt get a grain of sand between my cheeks... I carry a gun (and so does my wife) to protect each other and our infant child. I refuse to be a victim. I sincerely believe I prevented myself from being a victim that night, and my son and wife got to see me for Christmas.

    And fortunately for you, Mr. Dan, you can be unarmed and unafraid in one of the 10 largest cities because of people like me, my wife, and many others who carry. BGs are more concerned about meeting an armed citizen than they are of meeting a police officer. We give them pause (see the link in my signature for statistics).

    I will never be a victim again. I carry to end a threat, not take a life. I carry to protect my family, friends, and loved ones. I refuse to be a victim, plain and simple.

    Have a good day, sir.
    - NH (Resident), FL (NR), ME (NR), PA (NR), CT (NR), AZ (NR) PERMIT HOLDER
    (I travel to those states frequently for various reasons)
    http://gunfacts.info/

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    By the way, that was my first post since joining.
    - NH (Resident), FL (NR), ME (NR), PA (NR), CT (NR), AZ (NR) PERMIT HOLDER
    (I travel to those states frequently for various reasons)
    http://gunfacts.info/

  9. #18
    Kerry - thanx for posting, and supplying additional info...
    I'm sorry I mis-charactorized these patience. Although, I will stay with that for the most part they probably a little on the shady side... I am glad they are trying to get their lives in order...

    Gulf Coast, Floriduh
    Sccy is the limit

  10. #19
    Welcome Rachkir from Tampa Bay Floriduh...

    Gulf Coast, Floriduh
    Sccy is the limit

  11. #20
    Thanks! By the way, I'm in the Coast Guard... we seem to have all the "winners" for where our bases/offices are located!
    - NH (Resident), FL (NR), ME (NR), PA (NR), CT (NR), AZ (NR) PERMIT HOLDER
    (I travel to those states frequently for various reasons)
    http://gunfacts.info/

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