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  1. I've been posting in the concealed carry vest thread. This is one reason I want a "carry" vest, even if I only use it to cover the gun on my waist. I don't want any unusual sounds in the stall, even if it has a hook on which to hang things (pistol by trigger guard is safe). I'll slip the pistol into the vest pocket while I'm doing my business.

    The cause/excuse used by my employer, a large municipal utility, to enact a totally paranoid "weapons" policy, was a guy I know who FORGOT his 1911 in condition one in a stall. I know another guy who FORGOT a Charter .44 in the changing room of a clothing store. BTW, the first bozo, who forgot the 1911, also lost it from his motorcycle, sending it skipping down Aurora Avenue until retrieved.

    Because I often carry without a holster (yeah, I know, bad, and I'll never recommend it to anyone else), I drop the piece into my lowered pants at times.
    “The police of a State should never be stronger or better armed than the citizenry. An armed citizenry, willing to fight is the foundation of civil freedom.” Heinlein

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    Must be tough times! I wait until I can get home so I can keep up with my reading.
    Or if timing is off just run into the woods with the bears

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    I remember what happened when one would drop their weapon in basic training. You were one sorry SOB. I can still feel the push up's burning my arms.
    OH Yeah and the knuckles were pretty sore as well.. The Parade deck at MCRDSD was the last place to do pushups. It's funny now, wasn't then..

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  5. First - someone catching an accidental glimpse of your firearm is very unlikely to result in any kind of charges. Many states, CT included, don't even require that the pistol be concealed. That is operator choice. So, if your coat opens and somone sees the butt against your hip, relax, play it cool, and get on with life. Brandishing is generally a conscious act that you'll know you're doing if you ever do it. That said, know the laws in your state. (Still, someone crawling under the stall partition deserves whatever happens!)

    Second - be careful of IWB carry in the small of your back. It offers the least opportunity for retention, is hardest to reach, and can drop in the toilet - i know, cause i did it on my very first day with the darn permit! Fortunately it happened as i was sitting, thus the emergency breakdown, drying, oiling and reassmbly was embarrassing, but not totally gross. Another tip - holsters with hammer retention straps will prevent unexpected expulsion from your holster.
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ... for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Well you could always hang it around your neck like the Mexican in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"!


    It was nice when I had my paddle holster as I could un-clip it and hang holster and all on the little hook on the back of the door. Now I have a normal holster and find that I usually rebuckle my belt after sitting down and keep enough pressure by spreading my legs to keep the thing off the floor.

    I don't think ANYONE would be charged just because their piece was visible. After all, you ARE in the john. That would be like charging someone with indecent exposure in the john. I think the idea is that people expect a little privacy in the john. That's why dept stores don't put cameras to catch shoplifters in the john.



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    First, I agree that it's doubtful that you'd be charged with any crime for accidentally dropping your weapon in a bathroom stall. I'm sure that happens much more frequently than you might think. Personally, if I'm not using a retention holster attached to my belt like a pancake I have for my Beretta, I remove the weapon and place it on the TP holder next to me before I drop my trou. Best to avoid a problem and besides...you have no idea what's on that floor.

    On the comment about IWB carry, I also have to agree. Don't like it for several reasons and never have, the ones mentioned included.

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    I'll bet you scare the crap out of the guy next to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty16 View Post
    First - someone catching an accidental glimpse of your firearm is very unlikely to result in any kind of charges. Many states, CT included, don't even require that the pistol be concealed. That is operator choice. So, if your coat opens and somone sees the butt against your hip, relax, play it cool, and get on with life. Brandishing is generally a conscious act that you'll know you're doing if you ever do it. That said, know the laws in your state. (Still, someone crawling under the stall partition deserves whatever happens!)

    Second - be careful of IWB carry in the small of your back. It offers the least opportunity for retention, is hardest to reach, and can drop in the toilet - i know, cause i did it on my very first day with the darn permit! Fortunately it happened as i was sitting, thus the emergency breakdown, drying, oiling and reassmbly was embarrassing, but not totally gross. Another tip - holsters with hammer retention straps will prevent unexpected expulsion from your holster.

    You are right on! Only thing to actually worry about (not counting what is in the toilet) is the knee jerk reaction of someone that is sure that the only ones who should have guns are the police. Won't end up with charges but could be a stressful situation as the LEO's are surrounding you as they "just do their job. Just a word of caution...is you suspect someone saw something accidentally consider that you may, at the very least get a question or two. Just my $.02. What do I know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RugerP345 View Post
    Well you could always hang it around your neck like the Mexican in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"!
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    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.--River Tam

  11. Try taking a P with a duty belt on. Makes you not want to drink much.

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