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  1. What would you do?

    Had some thoughts today about CCW protocol, and was kind of stumped as to how I would handle this situation, no matter how unlikely.

    We all know that to carry properly, it needs to be deep concealment. That is a no-brainer. However, despite our best concealment efforts, we are still human, and sometimes things happen out of our control, no matter how careful we are. This brings me to my question to you all.

    What would you do in a worst case scenario of somebody finding out you are carrying, and them inciting panic wherever you currently are? It could be at a restaurant, gas station, department store, etc. The reason behind you being compromised is not really a factor. As I said before, we are human, and some things are out of our control. You could have slipped on a wet floor, a strong wind could have lifted your shirt, or maybe somebody was trying to squeeze by you in a tight spot and accidentally bumped into it.

    So regardless of how it happens, somebody notices you are carrying, freaks out, and starts a wave of panic where you are. What would you do now?

    For me, my first action would be to attempt to deescalate the situation. I would stay where I am, keep my hands out to my sides, and generally present a non-threatening appearance. If I am near a wall or an isle in a store, I would keep myself in a place to prevent somebody from trying to be a hero, and jumping me. From there I will wait for the store security, or other competent authority to approach, and calmly explain to them that I am a licensed conceal carrier, and what they would like me to do. From there on I would cooperate until the police arrived, because they have likely been called, at which then I will choose to exercise my rights, and not answer any questions until I have consulted a lawyer.

    It is a horrible situation that we take very careful measures to prevent, but it is still a possibility, even to the most careful CCW holders. With that said, what would you do in this scenario?

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    Laugh at them ...

    Out Loud ...

    Point at them and make fun of them!


    Seriously. Open Carry is pretty normal in AZ and NV and having your CCW become visible is not a legal problem. I'm not particularly careful to 'deep conceal' because it's not terribly important here. I'm pretty sure I've been 'discovered' but nobody has made a big deal about it.

    For instance, once, leaving a bar, my shirt tail got caught in a button in the upholstery and uncovered my pistol. I looked behind me to see if anybody noticed; the guy in the booth behind was talking on the phone. He looked at me, pointed and waved, and didn't even interrupt his call. But, this is the West -- open carry is still common here. It seems people in the East and South (and of course CA) worry about this most.
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    Agreed!

    Agreed NDS, laughing my arse off would be the only possible response.

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    I have to agree with the two above post and disagree with the OP that the only "proper" way to carry is deep conceal. I rarely deep conceal and that is only if I am going to a "gray area" or an area considered a "gun free zone" for law abiding citizens even though it is legal for me to carry there I would rather not have the harrasment. other then that I sloppy conceal or OC pretty much everywhere. If and when I DCC then I just drop the gun in its holster (Kholster) and forget about it. As soon as my shirt is on the gun disappears.
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    WellI dont think I would laugh at them.But Prolly just say "I have a permit to carry it" and move on.No big deal. If they tried to make it a big deal I would just walk away from them and ignore them.BTW I dont "deep" conceal either. I use a owb under a shirt or jacket.
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    Aresey, I was wondering where you are from? I think you are worrying WAY too much. I certainly don't want to see a panic started, but as long as you are in a place where you are legal to carry, and you do have a permit, don't worry about it. Tell them you have a permit and move on. If they call security or the police, you can show your permit and go about your business. Enjoy your right to carry.

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    Well, I know for a fact that wouldn’t likely happen in my State of Arizona were practically every man, woman and child has a permit. Really, when a store clerk sees a customer with a gun on their hip or elsewhere, they simply ignore it unless it's pointed at them. Likewise, if anyone has watched the news in the past year or two, a lot of folks are aware that more citizens are legally carrying. Conversely, perception trumps facts every time, so if you happen to look like some bad-ass or dress like a gang member then yes, you may well be profiled right down to the ground. I suppose this is 'change we can believe in'...
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    My CCW class instructor used to live in Florida and shared a story that happened to him, at all places, a Bass Pro Shop. He had squatted down to look at something on a bottom shelf and his gun was revealed. A woman saw it, panicked, and called the cops on her cell phone. She also reported to store security who started moving in on him. He noticed the unusual activity and decided to head for the door where he was met by 6, yes, 6 deputies who made him and his wife lay on the ground while they searched them both. Once they found his permit then everything was ok. They didn't even give him a chance to offer an explanation before treating him like a criminal. It all turned out ok but he and his wife were a bit shaken. So, the scenario presented is a possibility. If security or LEO's get involved, obviously the correct thing to do would be to be respectful and cooperate until the situation is defused. The ignorance of others would most likely cause us more problems than anything.

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    Wow, that’s a pretty wild story and I can see how that could happen under some conditions. Frankly, it sounds like the ‘reporting person’ created the shark frenzy. If she was the least bit dramatic with the call then it does tend to ratchet things’ up. In turn, the dispatcher responds with; ‘man with a gun’ and before you know it, here comes the helicopter, drug sniffing dogs, and the fifth Chinese hoard.

    I guess I just look more like some older harmless man than anything else. However, one day I was feeling and looking 'scruffy' (un-shaved) as I went shopping. Sure enough, I attracted some disapproving looks. Now if my gun had been exposed, it may well have lifted some eyebrows.
    Regards,
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    to all,

    fwiw, i'm really GLAD that i live in 2 places (about 6 months in each, each year), where NOBODY panics when they see a gun. - you MAY get "delayed" by long discussions with "strangers" about what you/they/everyone that they know carries!

    yours, TN46

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