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  1. Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    I always point this fact out to folks also.
    Something else I noticed when reading the law. In the case of say a pickup truck...
    Kinda interesting if you think about that point. Only one "piece of the puzzle" has to be locked up.
    Except that you have to go to the previous provision in the same law which STILL applies, regardless of the location of the firearm/ammo, to wit:

    if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible

    Neither/nor means that both firearms and ammo are prohibited from being readily accessible. They should have used the same language in the provision for a vehicle without a trunk, but that the fact that they did not does not negate the requirement set forth earlier in the statute. The last provision merely provides for an alternate storage method for both the firearm and the ammo.

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    Cool Cross Country Trip

    Hi;

    I just finished a two week road trip from Florida to Boston. I have a Florida resident CCL and non-resident permits in NH and Me. (While in Mass. I finished my non-resident application process for Mass) Before going I used the license tool and then checked each of the twelve states web pagees that I would drive through for additional information.

    Based on that research I made sure not to stop in New York state and modified the route so as to avoild New York City as they state openly that they do not honor the provisions of the federal law detailing the requirements of interstate travel with a firearm.

    I strongly suggest a similar approach and remember the federal law requires you be licensed in your state of origin and destination. Non-resident licenses help in many cases depending upon your route.

    One final point I found helpful is the individual state requirements to notify and LEO if you get stopped. Check those carefully for each state you will traverse. Say nothing when it's not required and remember they beed probable cause to search your vehicle. I saw many cars pulled over in NC and SC yesterday and I was returning to Fl and the vehicles were being searched.

    Good luck and remember the more you know the better prepared you are.

    DickB: dirol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DickB View Post
    Hi;

    I just finished a two week road trip from Florida to Boston. I have a Florida resident CCL and non-resident permits in NH and Me. (While in Mass. I finished my non-resident application process for Mass) Before going I used the license tool and then checked each of the twelve states web pagees that I would drive through for additional information.

    Based on that research I made sure not to stop in New York state and modified the route so as to avoild New York City as they state openly that they do not honor the provisions of the federal law detailing the requirements of interstate travel with a firearm.

    I strongly suggest a similar approach and remember the federal law requires you be licensed in your state of origin and destination. Non-resident licenses help in many cases depending upon your route.

    One final point I found helpful is the individual state requirements to notify and LEO if you get stopped. Check those carefully for each state you will traverse. Say nothing when it's not required and remember they beed probable cause to search your vehicle. I saw many cars pulled over in NC and SC yesterday and I was returning to Fl and the vehicles were being searched.

    Good luck and remember the more you know the better prepared you are.

    DickB: dirol:
    Not sure what you mean here. If you mean license to carry, don't think so. My understanding is that if it legal to OWN in state of destination, that's sufficient. I am licensed to carry in a goodly number of states, but NOT Maryland, which I recently visited. However, it is legal in Maryland to own a handgun and use it for, say, target practice (transport according to FOPA 1986). Thus, I was perfectly legal to transport to Maryland, which I did via airlines.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

  5. Quote Originally Posted by DickB View Post
    remember the federal law requires you be licensed in your state of origin and destination.
    That's strange. I posted the Federal law earlier. I don't see the word license, permit or concealed anywhere in that statute. Can you please show us what Federal law you are referencing?

    So, just so I understand this, I can open carry a handgun in Washington State without a license or permit. I can open carry a handgun in Wyoming or Montana without a license or permit. But, in order to transport that firearm through Idaho, where I can also open carry that handgun without a license or permit, you are saying I must be licensed in both Washington and Wyoming or Montana in order to transport the gun through Idaho?!?

    Thus the reason for my previous statement:

    I don't understand why everyone gets so hung up on the whole permit thing.

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    I agree, NavyLT. The "permit" (assuming CPL, here) has really nothing to do with the transport of a firearm, that I can discern, anyway. I'm open to being educated, however, if someone has another viewpoint which is verifiable.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

  7. #16
    Can you please show us what Federal law you are referencing?

    You are correct the law is as you state but in many states you cannot "carry" a handgun without a license and thus do not meet the following requirements. I don't purport to be an expert on this matter... was simply trying to be helpful. I'll defer to those more knowledgable than me.

    Sec. 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms


    Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry[/B][/COLOR] such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle:Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

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    Be being military and filing travel vouchers for all my trips I have found that my starting and ending destinations are always my home. would this not be the case of someone only taking a vacation? yes you are traveling to said place however your trip is not finished until you either decide to stay in said destination permanently or you return to your permanent place of residence. Just my two cents on the whole federal transport law and how one could argue if need be.
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  9. Thanks for the advice folks but...

    So I assume with all this info I still can carry my firearms as long as the ammo and firearms are located in different, locked, non-glove compartment places, and my destination is back home? Well, that sure is going to help if I get held up by some freaky people on the road or in a rest stop.
    Anyone know the best way to get reciprocity in multiple states, if I live in Mass?
    thanks again for the help
    T
    What about my hand-held crossbow? Anyone?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by terrence P. lannon View Post
    So I assume with all this info I still can carry my firearms as long as the ammo and firearms are located in different, locked, non-glove compartment places, and my destination is back home? Well, that sure is going to help if I get held up by some freaky people on the road or in a rest stop.
    Anyone know the best way to get reciprocity in multiple states, if I live in Mass?
    thanks again for the help
    T
    What about my hand-held crossbow? Anyone?
    Get a non resident permit from Florida.

    Jimmy

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