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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    excuse me?

    Wtf?
    Have you ever been to war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 901-Memphis View Post
    That seems like a totally different case to me, as someone who was actually using self defense is being accused of murder. I hope he gets a good attorney and gets off on that.
    According to the news story, which probably has at least some inacuracy, because its a news story involving a firearm.

    "According to the arrest affidavit, Logan McClelland told police Blehm confronted the family as they were leaving, flipped them off, yelled at them, then reached into the vehicle and hit McClelland's father, who then got out of the truck.

    McClelland said he got his father's gun, saw the two arguing, and shot the man.

    When Blehm was yelling, speaking, and flipping off the McCellands, did he indicate in anyway he was going to cause them any harm?
    When Blehm "reached into the McClelland vehcile what did he do? Bich slap him?
    How did McClelland exit their vehicle? Was he pulled out? Or did he exit "hopping mad"?
    When little McClelland saw big McClelland arguing with Blehm, what is ment by "argue" Screaming, fist fight or a physical assult?
    If Blehm is getting the best of McCleland, does the older man have a serious health condition, that would cause alarm in McClelland Junior?

    If junior McClelland is just wittnessing a verbal arguement, or a shoving match, then he will be spending a few years in the prison.

    If you are going to use Deadly force it is not mandantory to yell "freeze". However, it might be a good idea to yell "stop, leave me alone" "help" or something that can be read to a jury indicating you feared for your life.

    Defiending yourself with a firearm is seirous business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHulka View Post
    Have you ever been to war theiceman?
    Your response gave away the fact that you have not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHulka View Post
    Your response gave away the fact that you have not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    I apologise. I did not mean to pour salt in the wound.

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    Guys I agree that with the police according to what was reported, but in this case the use of the firearm was uncalled for, they were both in cars, however as I personaly can attest to if he had ben on a motorcycle then I beleve the use of the firearm would have ben justified, provided you can get on target and shoot before the buttwipe in the car flatens your ass

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    Here's another summary of my rage example (all true facts, take it with however many grains of salt you like): Guy and son go to tire store to complain about some work that was done previously. Guy gets into argument with store employee. Argument spills out into fight in parking lot. Son shoots store employee multiple times with a 9mm pistol. Son will be in jail for a long time. End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovershack View Post
    Like others said, this guy will most likely end up with a felony conviction.

    When carrying, the LAST thing you ever want to do is have to discharge your weapon. Take EVERY possible avenue to extricate yourself from the situation before resorting to deadly force. I don't care how much an an A-hole someone is, dead is dead, and you don't want to live with questions like, "Did I really have to kill that guy?".
    Exactly. When I unholster, I fire, and fire for effect. Long before that I will do everything in my power to extricate myself from the situation even to the point of humbling, apologizing, crying, saying please, running away.
    And the bottom line is a person can usually recognize early on where an event is heading. And the time to stop it is at its beginning.

    Good stuff Rovershack, welcome to the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    No, no, no, no, no! I have ADHD and am trying to secure an Indiana PPP right now. I Do. Not. Need. Some doorknob pleading "attention deficit" as an excuse for his road raging idiocy!

    This Smith character definitely needs to lose his ticket. At least long enough for him to take Remedial Self-Defense Pistol 101 and Handgun Marksmanship 202. Even if the doorknob named Evans was trying to block him from an exit, you're telling me there was no possible way for Smith to get into the right lane? No possible way to get into the off-ramp? Even if Evans was following and ramming him, far better to come to a smashing, crashing stop and then take a more well-aimed shot than to do so at 70 MPH.

    I believe as described, it IS an application of the Texas Castle Doctrine, but it was a very, very dumb application.
    The castle doctrine exists but does not prevail. Other TEXAS statutes address the use of deadly force and when it can be employed, and that was the case here. The APD saw a situation where this dude had other options than using deadly force.

    Not correcting you here Cathy - I always enjoy your posts - just clarifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Here's another summary of my rage example (all true facts, take it with however many grains of salt you like): Guy and son go to tire store to complain about some work that was done previously. Guy gets into argument with store employee. Argument spills out into fight in parking lot. Son shoots store employee multiple times with a 9mm pistol. Son will be in jail for a long time. End of story.
    Have you ever personally been involved in a road rage incident?

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