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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfling68 View Post
    I guess I am the only one who believes a company should stick with its core competencies. Do what you do and be the best at it. Glock is the standard bearer in what they do, making a 1911 would diminish their image. IMO.
    You're not the only one - it's Business 101. The appeal of a Glock is its simplicity, reliablity, and price. The first two go away by virtue of being a 1911. R&D costs and capital investment in a new assembly process likely hurt the last one.

    I'm not bashing the 1911. I own Glocks and 1911's. I love them both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCorps53 View Post
    The appeal of a Glock is its simplicity, reliablity, and price. The first two go away by virtue of being a 1911.

    I'm not bashing the 1911. I own Glocks and 1911's. I love them both.
    I understand your comment about pricing, machined steel cost significantly more than Tupperware.

    But…where does your reliability claim come from.

    Why does reliability go away by virtue of being a 1911? I have several 1911’s that are absolutely reliable.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by .45acp View Post
    machined steel cost significantly more than Tupperware.
    You mean 13th century BC material technology costs significantly more than modern polymers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .45acp View Post
    I understand your comment about pricing, machined steel cost significantly more than Tupperware.

    But…where does your reliability claim come from.

    Why does reliability go away by virtue of being a 1911? I have several 1911’s that are absolutely reliable.

    Steve
    Lets be honest - the 1911 can be a real bear to manufacture (and I love the design BTW). When done right there's no better gun. When done wrong you've got a boat anchor. Lots of machining and hand-fitting required. Plus, if you got any further from the Glock design than the 1911 is you'd be making shotguns (striker fired vs hammer fired, grip and thumb safety vs trigger safety, steel vs plastic, single stack vs double stack, etc).

    Also, you're getting WAY outside Glock's core compentencies here - they've been making basically the same design for at least 25 years (they came over here in '85 I think - not sure how long they've been in business). No guarantees they could pull off something different.

    Now the company that I think needs to jump into the 1911 pond is Ruger. I'm fairly certain they could do it, do it right, and do it for a reasonable price. I'd be very surprised if they have not at least talked about it (they make an AR-15 variant now).

  7. just to add my .02's worth,,why would i want a heavy steel 7 rd out-dated gun ,when i can have a up to date 12 rd 45 acp that shots better [yes i've had a few 1911's and their copys],,i don't want a 1919 ford truck either,ive got a 2008 gm diesel ,,but if thats want to shot/carry ,its ok by me

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCorps53 View Post
    You're not the only one - it's Business 101. The appeal of a Glock is its simplicity, reliablity, and price. The first two go away by virtue of being a 1911. R&D costs and capital investment in a new assembly process likely hurt the last one.

    I'm not bashing the 1911. I own Glocks and 1911's. I love them both.
    I would say the first and THIRD go away by being a 1911, as the design is quite complex and requires a good bit of hand-fitting. Reliability is no issue if the gun is done right. If you try to make it cheaply, then reliability suffers.

    Glock, IMO should consider new designs at some point. Right now they are a 1-trick pony (although it is one he!! of a good trick). Springfield, and Smith and Wesson have started to perfect that same trick, and Ruger is working on it (supposedly the SR9 is a very good weapon, and around here is about $100-$150 cheaper than the Glock).

    All designs get surpassed at some point.

  9. ok, how about a glock rifle?

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    Glock 1911

    H&K USP was able to be carried cock and locked, but cost too much. Good gun though.

    The Ruger idea sounds sort of okay. I just don't like their company. they would for years only sell 5 round magazines to civilians for the Mini-14, and because all European high capacity guns were out selling them(Glock, H&K,etc.) Ruger helped get the Assault weapons Ban in effect, limiting 10 rounds in a magazine.
    'So, I don't like buying from them, and sold my Mini-14.

    Smith and Wesson ,and Sig Sauer make expensive but good 1911's.

    My Wilson Combat is a great, but expensive 1911.

    I just think, it would be interesting if, Glock could do a cocked and locked gun like a 1911,
    for around $550.00, but still be reliable like all regular Glocks are. with a 4 Lbs. trigger pull,
    and thumb safety. No grip safety needed.

    I don't like Taurus either...

    Well.... Glock.... I'm waiting...

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