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    Quote Originally Posted by Daven View Post
    THANK YOU EVERYONE!. I appreciate your input and keep 'em coming.

    First, as a Christian, I value my ethics strongly and won't "ignore" a sign once I have seen one, or wear my gun against the business owners wishes. That IS trespassing.
    True. That's an ethical attitude that should be shared by more CCW people. His property, it's his right to limit the activity on said property and your right and my right to not visit there if we disagree with his/her rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daven View Post
    THIS restaurant I frequent and they just put the sign up next to the door. Eye level, bright sign hard to miss. I have decided to contact the owner by phone. I called today and he is out until Monday. He has my number and will call me back (Maybe) When he does, I will talk to him and use my script from what you have all said here, and then tell him about the No Gun's = No Money and add No Gun's = no protection. I will open by telling him I frequent his restaurant and noticed his new sign, then say "what are you doing to protect me and my family"? and then take it from there.

    I will let you all know what happens after I get THE call.
    You might begin by asking why the sign has gone up now, after all the problem-free time that passed before he put it up. He may have what seems to him to be a good reason. In the case of the grocery store I mentioned in my earlier post, some possibly half-drunk jerk open carrying had come in to the store one evening and begun harassing the elderly lady at the checkout lane. The woman had been frightened and store management had also been concerned but were afraid to confront the man because he was armed. So they put up the sign.

    I pointed out to him that clods like that guy wouldn't have obeyed his sign anyway. In fact, it would probably have just made the guy more beligerent. In the meantime, the sign would have discouraged anyone who might have possibly provided help/backup in case the guy had gotten violent from entering the store. Put that way, he realized that the sign was counterproductive.

    My point is that there is probably a perceived reason whether valid or not for that sign going up at this point in time. It might be good to learn what that is so that you can address it and explain why said sign is not a solution and may only add to any problems.

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  3. No guns

    Many places have these signs, a sign of far left thinking. Post a sign, make a law, paint lines, etc..They think criminals will obey these signs. Personally I carry just about everywhere sign or no sign. In some states like SC it is against the law to carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol even if you aren't drinking. The Huddle House chain has "no concealed weapons" signs at all their stores. Again I carry into them and keep my mouth shut.

    I don't think writing these people letters will help a thing. They think like sheep. It's the socialist/marxist/communist movement that is slowly eating away at out freedom.

    Just my .02

  4. Quote Originally Posted by rocketboy View Post
    And then call you to bail him out and pay his legal fees when he's arrested for trespassing with a firearm?
    It depends on your state law. In Missouri if you are caught with a concealed weapon with a CCW permit, the most they can do is ask you to leave. If you don't leave and the police come, its a $100 fine.

    Missouri Statute

    Carrying of a concealed firearm in a location specified in subdivisions (1) to (17) of subsection 1 of this section by any individual who holds a concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121 shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial to the premises or removal from the premises. If such person refuses to leave the premises and a peace officer is summoned, such person may be issued a citation for an amount not to exceed one hundred dollars for the first offense

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    I absolutely respect the right of a home owner to dictate what is and isn't acceptable on their property.

    A business that is open to the public has no right to override my right to life and the defense there of.

    As a responsible gun owner I conduct my business in public daily, with no one the wiser that I am armed.

    Please tell me how the mere posession of a firearm by a responsible gun owner on the premises of businees violates the owner's property rights?
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    If there is no metal detector and no security checking patrons at the door, I'd ignore the sign. Why make a big fuss about a policy that's not being enforced.
    I have to say; been there, done that. Will do it again.

  7. In my state I can legally ignore the 'ban' signs. Only after any of the employees of the establishment tells me to leave, I must leave or face trespassing charges.

    That is why I concealed carry. I do avoid places where I'm not allowed to carry; schools and feds.

    In addition, I love to write a letter to some establishments that ban guns. For example, I write a letter to Toys R Us every year informing what the total tally is since I quit buying any toys from them years back ($7,842 and change).

  8. #47
    Most of these places put up these sign, hoping the BGs will think there is a metal detector or something and not enter. Kind of like the camera signs, but no cameras or fake cameras.
    Ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    I absolutely respect the right of a home owner to dictate what is and isn't acceptable on their property.

    A business that is open to the public has no right to override my right to life and the defense there of.

    As a responsible gun owner I conduct my business in public daily, with no one the wiser that I am armed.

    Please tell me how the mere posession of a firearm by a responsible gun owner on the premises of businees violates the owner's property rights?
    +1 on that.

    A person's home is his castle and he can do what he wants with it. The owner invites who he wants on his property and is (should be) wary of those not invited.

    But business/commercial property isn't a castle. The public is generally invited onto the property, and the more that come the better for the business owner. But usually with little regard to their security, if any. I avoid doing business with them, if at all possible.

  10. well I like desert dude letter it said it all and for some states you can leave the gun in your car in the parking lot if the place has been posted but I dont leave my guns in the car so i would eat some place that I CAN KEEP MY GUNS ON ME YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Edsworld View Post
    Most of these places put up these sign, hoping the BGs will think there is a metal detector or something and not enter. Kind of like the camera signs, but no cameras or fake cameras.
    Has Anyone ever known a store or restaurant to put a metal detector in.

    This seems logistically a nightmare .Would they than frisk everyone who comes in with a set of keys? Would there be restaurant security? Guess i just don't see this happening.It would not only prevent ccw but would scare away sheeple patrons as well.

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