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    CC in a restaurant...that has a bar...

    I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I keep asking myself where I CAN and CANNOT carry. Before I even get my permit, I find myself debating IF I should CC every where I go. I'm in and out of my vehicle constantly running errands. I applied for my CC permit in January and have since realized...I'm not going to be able to CC daily. Little aggravating to say the least. I'm not going to break laws to CC, but it's my right to do so (to CC of course). One shouldn't have to alter their entire way of daily living in order to stay a law abiding citizen. Just curious as to what others think...

    Example...My family OFTEN frequents a Mexican restaurant in town that is NOT "primarily devoted" to dispensing alcohol. We never sit near the bar area which is centrally located; always in the non-smoking, family residing sections.

    Furthermore...the way the law is written in MS it is prohibited... So, NO...will not carry there. I just feel I should be able to. I am wrong?

    "13. It is unlawful to carry a firearm in any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises that is primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages; any portion of an establishment in which beer or light wine is consumed on the premises, that is primarily devoted to such purpose"

    Restaurant...Bar? There is no clear cut definition. ALL restaurants around here serve alcohol...So NO CC in any restaurant(s)?
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    I will offer this: I have a gun vault in my vehicle and if I have to visit a non-carry place like the post office, I take it off and stick it in there. At least it's pretty close and not at the house.

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    Yep. That's my alternative. Better than nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavon View Post
    I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I keep asking myself where I CAN and CANNOT carry. Before I even get my permit, I find myself debating IF I should CC every where I go. I'm in and out of my vehicle constantly running errands. I applied for my CC permit in January and have since realized...I'm not going to be able to CC daily. Little aggravating to say the least. I'm not going to break laws to CC, but it's my right to do so (to CC of course). One shouldn't have to alter their entire way of daily living in order to stay a law abiding citizen. Just curious as to what others think...

    Example...My family OFTEN frequents a Mexican restaurant in town that is NOT "primarily devoted" to dispensing alcohol. We never sit near the bar area which is centrally located; always in the non-smoking, family residing sections.

    Furthermore...the way the law is written in MS it is prohibited... So, NO...will not carry there. I just feel I should be able to. I am wrong?

    "13. It is unlawful to carry a firearm in any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises that is primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages; any portion of an establishment in which beer or light wine is consumed on the premises, that is primarily devoted to such purpose"

    Restaurant...Bar? There is no clear cut definition. ALL restaurants around here serve alcohol...So NO CC in any restaurant(s)?
    Wasn't there a similar law in TN or KY that was held invalid because it was too vague with regard to the "primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages..."?

    Move out of that socialist-cradle-to-grave state you live in an move to New York. . You can cc in any restaurant or bar and you don't have to renew your cc every 4 years because it is issued for life.

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    LOL...You are more correct than you know. My wife and family have seriously been considering moving for some time, but not northeast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavon View Post
    LOL...You are more correct than you know. My wife and family have seriously been considering moving for some time, but not northeast.
    Amen... NY??? Really??? The 4King gun laws are about as retarded as they are in MA. South of the Mason Dixon line...

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    Blegh, what a poorly worded law! That's why I like math.

    In my state you aren't allowed to carry anywhere that a person under 21 is not allowed as specified by the liquor board. Much better because in our restaurant/bars there is a line on the ground showing the no fly zone.

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    Every state is different ... in Texas, you can't carry if the place makes more than half its revenue from booze ... so, restaurant where they have a bar is usually ok, bar with a kitchen usually a no-no ... and the place has to be posted with a sign making it clear if it's a 50% plus establishment ... kinda wacky, but I'm not a barfly and always carry when we're out to eat ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
    Amen... NY??? Really??? The 4King gun laws are about as retarded as they are in MA. South of the Mason Dixon line...

    Socialist, liberal, democrat state = NY
    Maybe you are unaware of the issue we are discussing about in this post: CC in a bar or restaurant.

    So let's review the facts on that topic in relation to NY and MS:

    In one of those states you get a cc for life and you can cc in a bar or restaurant.

    In the other state you have to renew your cc every 4 years and you have to be an alcoholic beverage control agent to figure out whether you can carry in a particular bar or restaurant.

    Which of those two do you thinks represents NYS's law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Maybe you are unaware of the issue we are discussing about in this post: CC in a bar or restaurant.

    So let's review the facts on that topic in relation to NY and MS:

    In one of those states you get a cc for life and you can cc in a bar or restaurant.

    In the other state you have to renew your cc every 4 years and you have to be an alcoholic beverage control agent to figure out whether you can carry in a particular bar or restaurant.

    Which of those two do you thinks represents NYS's law?
    In the choice between the 2; NY vs MA I say neither... That was my point. Re-read my post.. Hence the statement south of the Mason Dixon line...

    Both are "may issue" when it comes to a concealed carry license, leaving your right to self defense outside of your home, up to the discretion of the issuing body. Very unconstitutional...

    "The 4King gun laws are about as retarded as they are in MA."

    I'll stipulate that MA is worse, but NY would not be my choice to escape the threat of ridiculous anti gun laws.

    MA is 6 years for renewal by the way...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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