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    If it's legal to open carry, and concealed carry with a permit...

    Why is it considered illegal if you're showing part of your gun if it's legal to CC and open carry? If you had a license to CC, what's the big deal of carrying partially concealed? It just makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's supposed to be concealed, but it's legal to open carry. If you had the license to concealed carry, why is it a problem? I don't carry but when I become of age I will and I was just wondering what input you guys have on the subject.

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    You have to remember that these laws are made by politicians, and much of what they do will not make sense to ordinary people like us. This provision you speak of, as well as the one in many states that require no permit for open carry, but does for concealed carry, are two of the more ridiculous ones I've seen in my lifetime.
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    Haha It makes no sense to me whatsoever! I did forget that they were made up by politicians. And the kicker is here is MI, there is a law going through government to make it legal to CC in Bars, Schools, and Sporting events, but it's illegal to have a bit of your gun showing? Blasphemy if you ask me. Totally outrageous.

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    Yes, it's funny how society has swung opposite common sense on this one. Even I thought like this at one time. When I first started looking into gun laws I was surprised that you could OC with no permit.

    I had never really thought about it, but the gun that you don't know about can be much more dangerous than the one you are staring at. This is like two steps of common sense more than a polit is capable of obviously.

    The law was possibly created to strictly forbid brandishing and intimidating. Think, "guy opening his coat to show his gun". That's the only way I can see your law making sense. In WA I think there is just a separate punishment for brandishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushfan24 View Post
    Why is it considered illegal if you're showing part of your gun if it's legal to CC and open carry? If you had a license to CC, what's the big deal of carrying partially concealed? It just makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's supposed to be concealed, but it's legal to open carry. If you had the license to concealed carry, why is it a problem? I don't carry but when I become of age I will and I was just wondering what input you guys have on the subject.
    Where is this law of which you speak...?

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    I can see where people are going to say hey, he has a gun, that's dangerous! But any person that says that really needs to take some time to think about the real dangers of life. Every person is in danger no matter where they are. Going to the grocery store, you could get hit by a driver who isn't paying attention. What I really want to find out is how many accidents a year are caused by irresponsible driving, or driving while your judgment is impaired by any means. I want to see that number compared to the number of people that are killed by someone who is legally concealed carrying. I would bet money that the irresponsible driving will have so many more deaths than CC. What I'm trying to say is that CC is dangerous, there are many many many more things that people should be worried about besides someone that has a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaxMentis View Post
    Where is this law of which you speak...?
    That was my question too. What the OP proposes is not illegal, in an open carry state.
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    I am not a master of the law, but I thought Michigan had a brandishing law. If not, then totally disregard this post haha. If Michigan doesn't i might as well delete this post and apologize for the rant I went on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushfan24 View Post
    I am not a master of the law, but I thought Michigan had a brandishing law. If not, then totally disregard this post haha. If Michigan doesn't i might as well delete this post and apologize for the rant I went on.
    Lets see here...

    brandishing - present participle of bran·dish
    Verb: Wave or flourish (something, esp. a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement.

    An exposed firearm is not brandishing a firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unfettered Might View Post
    Lets see here...

    brandishing - present participle of bran·dish
    Verb: Wave or flourish (something, esp. a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement.

    An exposed firearm is not brandishing a firearm.
    Huh. I've just heard some stories of friends getting in trouble for having an exposed firearm. I guess the police officer said it has to be either concealed or open, and can't be one of the two. Then again, some, if not most, officers don't know the laws. Not saying all, but most.

    So this is for everyone. I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS THREAD! I AM AND IDIOT AND DIDN'T LOOK UP THE LAWS! Haha

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