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  1. Quote Originally Posted by johnsral View Post
    There is not a law on the books that states when you become an OH resident your FL license is not valid. I went through this a few years back when I moved to OH. It is valid to carry in OH with a FL license even if you are an OH resident. I would still recommend getting the OH permit though. If you have the OH permit with the current law you may drop off your child at school even while carrying as long as you do not exit the vehicle (curb side drop off). That provision may or may not apply if you are using a FL permit. But as you may be aware reciprocity agreements mean that you follow the law of the state you are in with reciprocity agreements and not the state that issued your permit.
    I looked in Ohio state law and I could find nothing that supports Gary Slider's statement either. Gary, could you please provide a citation that was the source of your statement?

    Here is the Ohio law:
    Lawriter - ORC - 2923.12 Carrying concealed weapons.
    2923.12 Carrying concealed weapons.

    (A) No person shall knowingly carry or have, concealed on the person’s person or concealed ready at hand, any of the following:

    (1) A deadly weapon other than a handgun;

    (2) A handgun other than a dangerous ordnance;

    (3) A dangerous ordnance.

    ...

    (2) Division (A)(2) of this section does not apply to any person who, at the time of the alleged carrying or possession of a handgun, is carrying a valid license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued to the person under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code or a license to carry a concealed handgun that was issued by another state with which the attorney general has entered into a reciprocity agreement under section 109.69 of the Revised Code, unless the person knowingly is in a place described in division (B) of section 2923.126 of the Revised Code.
    I don't see anything in Ohio code that invalidates an out-of-state permit once a person becomes a resident of Ohio.

    An example of a statute that DOES invalidate out-of-state permits for residents is Washington:
    RCW 9.41.073
    Concealed pistol license — Reciprocity.


    (1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized to carry a concealed pistol in this state if:

    (i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under twenty-one years of age; and

    (ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license.

    (b) This section applies to a license holder from another state only while the license holder is not a resident of this state. A license holder from another state must carry the handgun in compliance with the laws of this state.
    I have not been able to find such wording in Ohio state law.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mb504 View Post
    Isn't that more of an issue of the Ohio State law? Would an OH permit allow them within 1000'?
    With only limited exceptions, FEDERAL law prohibits carrying a loaded firearm within 1000' feet of a school. One of those limited exceptions is that the person is licensed BY the state the school zone is located in. Yes, an Ohio permit would be an exception to the Federal law in Ohio.

    State laws may further prohibit firearms around schools, but they cannot override the Federal prohibition. The only way a state can override the Federal prohibition is to issue a license to carry a firearm and to require a background check to issue the license.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    NavyLT, how is it that have been able to post basically what I was going to say, but do it before me? This seems to be happening a lot lately.
    My Google-Fu and mastery of Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V is no match for mere mortals!

    I am recovering from knee surgery and have even more free time than when I am physically present at work.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  5. Thank you to everyone that replied this has been a great help. I think I'll just wait till I move back to Ohio and do the courses and everything there that way I am at least current with that states laws and in accordance with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBlue View Post
    Thank you to everyone that replied this has been a great help. I think I'll just wait till I move back to Ohio and do the courses and everything there that way I am at least current with that states laws and in accordance with them.

    Then...once you do that...you can use the OH permit to obtain the AZ permit...which will give almost the same reciprocity coverage as FL...at half the cost.

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    understa Eotvos

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBlue View Post
    Thank you to everyone that replied this has been a great help. I think I'll just wait till I move back to Ohio and do the courses and everything there that way I am at least current with that states laws and in accordance with them.
    That is one option, but not the best from a self-defense standpoint.

    I do not know your time period for moving back to Ohio and that of course should come into play economically but not socially. The longer you wait to apply and receive a CCW permit the more time you will not have your emergency equipment available if you need it.

    Just a thought to add to the process.

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