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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    You're a hypocrite. Business owners like you claim that safety for their patrons is of the upmost importance, but then you don't actually do anything to ensure safety. Unless you're doing pat-downs and using metal detectors and x-rays for everyone who goes into your establishment, you're not really doing anything to ensure the safety of patrons. On the other hand, your silly little signs and half-way trained security guards aren't going to do anything to stop a madman. People like you make me sick. GTFO.

    BANK CRIME STATISTICS (BCS)
    FEDERAL INSURED FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS
    JANUARY 1, 2009 DECEMBER 31, 2009I. VIOLATIONS OF THE FEDERAL BANK ROBBERY AND INCIDENTAL CRIMES STATUTE, TITLE 18, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 2113

    Robberies

    Commercial Banks 5,316
    Mutual Savings Banks 51
    Savings and Loan Associations 106
    Credit Unions 470
    Total 5,943



    Deaths

    Customer 0
    Employee 0
    Employee Family 0
    Perpetrator 21
    Law Officer 0
    Guard 0
    Other 0
    Total 21
    Number of incidents in which deaths occurred: 20

    Looks like our bank robbery policies are working.

    If you want to be a security guard then stop by and pick up an application.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    So instead of doing as Heller and McDonald, you'd take matters into your own hands and fight to the death!

    But if you thought the law was unconstitutional, why not work your claims through the system like Heller and McDonald did?

    Now lets be serious, I'll bet if a government agent read your post on this forum, improperly concluded you were a threat, lied to secured a subpoena for your isp, then secured your name and address from your isp, then lied to obtained a search warrant to seize your guns, we will not be reading about a firefight at your house.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA, what kind of nonsense is this? I know what it is:


  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    I prefer to determine on my premises who will do the "blowing away" and under what circumstances that will happen.

    I can't check the references, the experience, the competence, or impose my armed robbery policies on every customers who thinks I need their help keeping an armed robber from getting away with money that can be replaced.

    I can't be filter out customers with defective weapons that fire unexpectedly, or customers who can't seem to secure their firearm on their body to prevent unintentional discharges.

    What I can do is prohibit customers from having a weapon on them while on my premises and hire competent security personal who are obligated to following my customer safety plan to deal with anyone who ignores my rules, instead of expecting each individual customer to make separate and distinct determinations of those matters.
    As a business owner, you have the right to refuse service to anyone within the laws of your state. I as a customer can take my business dealing elsewhere, because I have the right to refuse to enter your premise or conduct any business with you and I'm not obligated by state laws.

    Some states have laws do not allow you to pick and choose what laws are applicable to your establishment (check your LCCW laws) and in arbitrarily exercising what you feel is your right, you can actually find yourself in a court battle to defend your decisions.

    I find your 'logic' flawed and your argument without merit.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    BANK CRIME STATISTICS (BCS)
    FEDERAL INSURED FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS
    JANUARY 1, 2009 DECEMBER 31, 2009I. VIOLATIONS OF THE FEDERAL BANK ROBBERY AND INCIDENTAL CRIMES STATUTE, TITLE 18, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 2113

    Robberies

    Commercial Banks 5,316
    Mutual Savings Banks 51
    Savings and Loan Associations 106
    Credit Unions 470
    Total 5,943



    Deaths

    Customer 0
    Employee 0
    Employee Family 0
    Perpetrator 21
    Law Officer 0
    Guard 0
    Other 0
    Total 21
    Number of incidents in which deaths occurred: 20

    Looks like our bank robbery policies are working.

    If you want to be a security guard then stop by and pick up an application.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHA, what kind of nonsense is this? I know what it is:

    I was thinking more of this:

    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    Ok... had to look it up....

    +1!
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    I prefer to determine on my premises who will do the "blowing away" and under what circumstances that will happen.

    What I can do is prohibit customers from having a weapon on them while on my premises and hire competent security personal who are obligated to following my customer safety plan to deal with anyone who ignores my rules, instead of expecting each individual customer to make separate and distinct determinations of those matters.
    Boys....what we have here is a fine example of:
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  9. #68
    Why is it that people with extreme positions have a tendency to be intolerant of the opinions of others.

    Liberals complain and berate conservatives for their views. Conservatives do the same to liberals. They each complain that the other side shouldn't be heard.

    On here, the same holds true. One side ends up insulting the other and the insults fly back and forth. I started this thread for an intelligent discussion of this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeland Man View Post
    Those two statements conflict with each other. Your oath, like mine, was to support and defend the constitution. If the constitution is changed by a 3/4th majority of the states, your oath is still valid. You swore to support and defend, not to support and defend the constitution the way YOU think it should be.

    So, if the 4th amendment were repealed tomorrow you would hold your oath binding?


    I think it's worth noting that the Founders pursued every possible avenue of redress and only sought resolution through force of arms when the British actually moved to confiscate their arms.

    I think that would be the Rubicon for me as well
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Lakeland Man View Post
    I started this thread for an intelligent discussion of this issue.
    There's nothing to debate. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    Just in case you're a little slow and didn't catch that, I'll say it again.


    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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