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    Quote Originally Posted by njsportsman View Post
    With this new National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Bill if it passes it will allow anyone with a CCW to carry in all states who have CCW. So, basically if you are from PA you can carry in New Jersey because now with law New Jersey has to comply with reciprocity laws. How will this effect me who lives in New Jersey and cannot get a NJ permit but, have a FL and VA non resident? Can I carry in NJ or does it only apply to resident CCw holders. Thanks
    Why would anyone promote this? The 2nd amendment gives everyone this right. To allow this bill basically says states can set limitations on the 2nd amendment, which I don't agree with. Whether you believe the 2nd amendment means anyone can carry any weapon, (including a leopard on a leash, lol) or there should be reasonable restrictions, does not matter in regards to this bill. States rights, which I believe in, cannot over rule the bill of rights.

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    While I like the idea behind the bill, it makes me wonder how many "May Issue" states will try to become "Right Denied" states (like Illinois) in an effort to circumvent the bill if it becomes law.

    It's my understanding that a state that doesn't issue a permit at all won't have to worry about complying. In the end the bill could end up hurting those fortunate enough to have permits in states like CA or NJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackieChan View Post
    I bet that if this national carry bill makes it to a vote the Democrats will be arguing for states rights and try to secede.
    I've always believed that it "SHOULD BE" the progessive socialist states that secede.

    Afterall, it is the "progressive" democrats that have problems with the United States of America; (and the Constitution).

    "Conservatives" and conservative States don't have any problems with our nation's constitution.

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    How will this proposed law affect the FEDERAL GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE LAW? According to FEDERAL LAW it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm within 1000 feet of a school unless that person has a carry permit issued to him by the state in which the school is located. This means for instance that even though Idaho recognizes my Washington CPL I would still be in violation of FEDERAL LAW if I carried my firearm within 1000 feet of a school in Idaho. I have read the proposed law and support it. I seems to indicate that the FEDERAL GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE LAW would then not apply to out of state permit holders. But it does not say so explicitly. Opinions anyone? Any lawyers want to guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by santa View Post
    How will this proposed law affect the FEDERAL GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE LAW? According to FEDERAL LAW it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm within 1000 feet of a school unless that person has a carry permit issued to him by the state in which the school is located. This means for instance that even though Idaho recognizes my Washington CPL I would still be in violation of FEDERAL LAW if I carried my firearm within 1000 feet of a school in Idaho. I have read the proposed law and support it. I seems to indicate that the FEDERAL GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE LAW would then not apply to out of state permit holders. But it does not say so explicitly. Opinions anyone? Any lawyers want to guess?
    My guess is that the new law would have to specifically reference the part in the school law about carry permits and have language that supersedes the clause in 1995 law. Otherwise, the school law can still enforce the 1000' ban on out of state permits.

    In 1993 when I got my ccw, reciprocity was non existant. I honestly believe the anti gun people slipped the "issued by the same state" clause as a means to defeat reciprocity, should it eventually come. The whole 1995 law needs to be reworked.

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    I know this is off key.
    Back in the '80s when I was in High School, students were allowed to bring hunting rifles and shotguns to school during hunting season. The parent had to send a note and the gun had to be cased and stored in the principal's office as soon as the student arrived at school. As soon as school was dismissed in the afternoon, we went hunting! My, how timid this country has become....

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    It seems like a repeal of national firearms regulation would be a better step. But I suppose we should take what can be taken for now.

    I don't know too much about federal regulation except that it is unconstitutional when it inches past "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MECHTESTER View Post
    My guess is that the new law would have to specifically reference the part in the school law about carry permits and have language that supersedes the clause in 1995 law. Otherwise, the school law can still enforce the 1000' ban on out of state permits.

    In 1993 when I got my ccw, reciprocity was non existant. I honestly believe the anti gun people slipped the "issued by the same state" clause as a means to defeat reciprocity, should it eventually come. The whole 1995 law needs to be reworked.

    My opinion and buck may get you a cup of coffee



    I know this is off key.
    Back in the '80s when I was in High School, students were allowed to bring hunting rifles and shotguns to school during hunting season. The parent had to send a note and the gun had to be cased and stored in the principal's office as soon as the student arrived at school. As soon as school was dismissed in the afternoon, we went hunting! My, how timid this country has become....
    You are lucky to have known such times. When I was in school I was acting up and raising hell and all the teachers would do is tell me how much potential I had rather than whack me on the back of the head.

    I belong to a coddled and small minded generation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackieChan View Post
    In other news:

    "Kurt Cobain used to believe in gun control, now he is a little more open minded."
    Actually he was a "Def Leopard" fan. His favorite song was "Don't shoot shotgun".

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