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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger357SP101 View Post
    Nice try but the issue there is I could get away with not obeying any of those very easily.
    Its not my fault that the laws here are different than your state about CCW.
    If someone tells me not to do something on their PRIVATE property, I will comply or simply not be on their property.

    Thats just killing you, isnt it.
    No, that's a personal decision. Your opinion is to do as your conscience dictates. Good for you. Don't bust my chops because I don't follow your moral compass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtg452 View Post
    I stance on the question was in my post.

    "My presence on their property is both optional and voluntary- as in I don't have to be there but choose to. When I choose to be on their property, I have an obligation to abide by their wishes. If I have chosen not to do so, then I don't need to be there."

    When you go onto their property, it's their house and their rules. If you don't want to follow their rules, simply don't go there.

    They aren't saying that you can't own a gun. They aren't saying that you can't carry a gun. They ARE, however, saying that they prefer that you don't carry a gun on their property. Bizactly. It's a preference.

    Look at it this way.

    If you don't want folks smoking in your living room, then I shouldn't fire up a cigar while sitting on your couch.

    Why shouldn't I?

    That's the same principle. I am over the legal age to buy tobacco products and can do so if I wish.

    What gives you, in the example above, the right to say that I can't smoke if I want to?

    (Insert your answer here.)

    THAT'S what gives them the right to say they don't want you carrying a gun at their place of business.

    Flawed analogy is flawed. Smoking isn't a right.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Flawed analogy is flawed. Smoking isn't a right.
    But the ability of the property owner to dictate what is allowable or is not allowable on their premises isn't.



    And you didn't answer my question, so I'll repeat it.

    What gives a property owner the ability to say that they don't want me smoking in their living room?

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    I take offense to you attempting to question my integrity.
    uh...I dont really care?

    Know what *I* take offense to ?
    Being grouped together by the Brady clan with your type whom they can prove doesnt give a rats ass about anyones rights but their own.
    THAT offends the hell out of me.

    I also wish you wouldn't have picked and chosen to twist and eliminate my words to fit your agenda. Show me where I have a duty to abide by a rule.
    Clearly you dont.
    As I said in another post, you going to bring your porn into a church next just because you have rights?


    My rights aren't violated by no guns signs. I don't allow a "rule" to violate my rights, as "rules" aren't capable. I don't just "cover" when no gun signs are present, I keep my sidearm in plain view. They can ask me to leave, and I will. That's the right they have.
    They asked you NOT to enter with their sign to begin with, pal.
    You think we believe you have any integrity to obey a verbal request given your complete disregard of their rights now?

    Oh, thats right, youd be trespassing at that point in which case the LAW will now apply.
    So its just like I said..you only obey what you HAVE to obey to keep from going to jail.

    And for the record, I did inform the company when I e-mailed them that I carried anyway.
    uh huh...AFTER the fact.
    Why didnt you tell them when you went in?
    Not a peep about breaking their "rules" when they responded.
    What company are you talking about...give me a website and a phone number or email address, please.
    Id like to examine the facts for myself.

  6. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    No, that's a personal decision. Your opinion is to do as your conscience dictates. Good for you. Don't bust my chops because I don't follow your moral compass.
    Clearly you have no moral compass.
    And yours is affecting the REST of us who know that brady nuts who affect LAW by voting are watching your type so they can accuse ALL of us of being just like you.

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    If you come onto my property, I can ask you to tape this banana to your forehead. If you don't, what can I do? I can't make you. I can only ask that you comply, and if you don't ask you to leave. If you don't, then I can have you removed.

    That's the property right. Businesses can request anything. You don't have to comply.

  8. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Flawed analogy is flawed. Smoking isn't a right.
    Nice try but its PRIVATE PROPERTY.

    You have the RIGHT on YOUR PROPERTY to tell someone to shut their damned mouth if you dont like what theyre SAYING EVEN THOUGH they have the 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    If you come onto my property, I can ask you to tape this banana to your forehead. If you don't, what can I do? I can't make you. I can only ask that you comply, and if you don't ask you to leave. If you don't, then I can have you removed.

    That's the property right. Businesses can request anything. You don't have to comply.
    You CAN make someone leave your property if they arent complying with your rules.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    If you come onto my property, I can ask you to tape this banana to your forehead. If you don't, what can I do? I can't make you. I can only ask that you comply, and if you don't ask you to leave. If you don't, then I can have you removed.

    That's the property right. Businesses can request anything. You don't have to comply.
    So this would be alright?

    Let's say I'm your house guest for the night. You say I can't smoke in your living room. We all go to bed and I get up at 3AM and fire up a cigar while sitting on your new leather couch, smoke it all and go back to bed.


    According to your stance that you have the right to do what you want regardless of what the property owner wishes as long as you don't get caught, it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtg452 View Post
    So this would be alright?

    Let's say I'm your house guest for the night. You say I can't smoke in your living room. We all go to bed and I get up at 3AM and fire up a cigar while sitting on your new leather couch, smoke it all and go back to bed.
    My ex wife exactly.
    The landlord said NO smoking.
    Every damned day Id catch her smoking in the house after I promised that man there would be NO smoking.
    The lease ended, I didnt sign another one. Im not allowing that woman to drag me down to her level.
    And I certainly dont like being grouped together by anti gunners with these sorts who have no respect for the rights of these antigunners...being that WE want OUR rights respected.

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