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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TooCalm View Post
    I received my out of state Utah permit last November 2010. Are they good until the expiration date?
    Your permit is good until it expires.

    Quote Originally Posted by obxfshr View Post
    Ok so for example, I'm a resident of Virginia with a Va Permit. Va and Utah have reciprocity so applicants from Va with an existing permit will not be affected by this bill, correct?

    Looks like this is applicable for any applications received after 10 may 2011.

    As long as you have your VA permit you can apply/renew your UT permit. New apps received after May 10, 2011 and renewals after Jan 1, 2012 must qualify under this new law.

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  3. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by obxfshr View Post
    Ok so for example, I'm a resident of Virginia with a Va Permit. Va and Utah have reciprocity so applicants from Va with an existing permit will not be affected by this bill, correct?

    Looks like this is applicable for any applications received after 10 may 2011.
    That's the way I see it.

  4. #13
    Yeah, at least they were kind enough not to change it for the existing permits, that would have been bad.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by diannabill View Post

    So I don't think it would affect folks in a state like Nevada, as long as they get a Nevada license prior to applying for a Utah permit.

    I've been told that the bill was designed to prevent folks from avoiding their own state's requirements to get a permit that is valid in that state (like TX). Apparently the TX requirements are much more costly for TX residents than the cost of getting a UT permit.
    Before you even read the legalize it says:

    11 Highlighted Provisions:
    12 This bill:
    13 < requires a nonresident applicant for a concealed firearm permit to hold a current
    14 concealed firearm or concealed weapon permit from the applicant's state of
    15 residency that recognizes the validity of the Utah permit in that state or has
    16 reciprocity with the Utah concealed firearm permit law; and
    17 < requires a nonresident applicant to pay an additional $5 processing fee for the
    18 issuance of the permit.

    You missed "the applicant's state of residency that recognizes the validity of the Utah permit"

    From your previous post CAPs added:

    "SB36 simply requires that an applicant who resides in a state that DOES RECOGNIZE the Utah CFP

    If the applicant's state of residency doesn't recognize Utah that applicant is screwed.....and Nevada doesn't due to higher requirements.

    Eli

  6. Quote Originally Posted by jg1967 View Post
    Yeah, at least they were kind enough not to change it for the existing permits, that would have been bad.
    Then they might have had to refund the unused part of the money but depending on where you live they may not renew them.

    Eli

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by eli View Post
    Before you even read the legalize it says:

    11 Highlighted Provisions:
    12 This bill:
    13 < requires a nonresident applicant for a concealed firearm permit to hold a current
    14 concealed firearm or concealed weapon permit from the applicant's state of
    15 residency that recognizes the validity of the Utah permit in that state or has
    16 reciprocity with the Utah concealed firearm permit law; and
    17 < requires a nonresident applicant to pay an additional $5 processing fee for the
    18 issuance of the permit.

    You missed "the applicant's state of residency that recognizes the validity of the Utah permit"

    From your previous post CAPs added:

    "SB36 simply requires that an applicant who resides in a state that DOES RECOGNIZE the Utah CFP

    If the applicant's state of residency doesn't recognize Utah that applicant is screwed.....and Nevada doesn't due to higher requirements.

    Eli
    I believe - and will find out more tomorrow - that lines 11 through 18 are very confusingly trying to say that an applicant has to have a concealed permit if they're from a state that has reciprocity or recognizes the Utah permit. Otherwise, there's a contradiction between that and what's in lines 74 - 79. But again, this is my opinion, and I'm going to do some checking with Utah tomorrow.

    I really believe this won't impact anyone unless they're from a state with reciprocity, or recognizes Utah's permit. Then they'll have to also get their state permit.

    Did you read that write-up from Putnam County NY? In their discussion they say that the information has been verified from Utah:

    - Putnam Shooters

    Check out that link. It's a pretty good discussion. I really think we're going to be OK for the most part.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by diannabill View Post
    I believe - and will find out more tomorrow - that lines 11 through 18 are very confusingly trying to say that an applicant has to have a concealed permit if they're from a state that has reciprocity or recognizes the Utah permit. Otherwise, there's a contradiction between that and what's in lines 74 - 79. But again, this is my opinion, and I'm going to do some checking with Utah tomorrow.

    I really believe this won't impact anyone unless they're from a state with reciprocity, or recognizes Utah's permit. Then they'll have to also get their state permit.

    Did you read that write-up from Putnam County NY? In their discussion they say that the information has been verified from Utah:

    - Putnam Shooters

    Check out that link. It's a pretty good discussion. I really think we're going to be OK for the most part.
    You may be right.....So if I understand this correctly if your state honors Utah you have get a permit in your home state. If your home doesn't honor Utah you don't need one in your home state and this is gonna cost Utah over 2.5 million by the end of 2013?

    Eli

  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by eli View Post
    You may be right.....So if I understand this correctly if your state honors Utah you have get a permit in your home state. If your home doesn't honor Utah you don't need one in your home state and this is gonna cost Utah over 2.5 million by the end of 2013?

    Eli

    Exactly.

  10. My wife and I currently have our applications in for a Utah permit.

    Since vermont does not issue permits fo CCW, since none are required for CCW, can someone please tell me if we will be able to get our permits?

    Thanks,

    Marc

  11. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by VTfireftr View Post
    My wife and I currently have our applications in for a Utah permit.

    Since vermont does not issue permits fo CCW, since none are required for CCW, can someone please tell me if we will be able to get our permits?

    Thanks,

    Marc

    I would think that since VT does not have an issuing authority, then you should be ok. You could call them to confirm.


    (4) (a) In addition to meeting the other qualifications for the issuance of a concealed
    75 firearm permit under this section, a nonresident applicant S. who resides in a state that
    75a recognizes the validity of the Utah permit or has reciprocity with Utah's concealed firearm
    75b permit law .S shall:
    76 (i) hold a current concealed firearm or concealed weapon permit issued by the
    77 appropriate permitting authority of the nonresident applicant's state of residency

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