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  1. #21
    Here is the sad but true thing.

    You should not carry. You should talk
    about getting an armed guard for this time. Or talk about having a LEO there for her protection, either way go to your higher up, tell them you do not feel safe, and wish to have one of these there. Also get as many of your coworkers as you can to go with you have them say they do not feel safe.

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  3. #22
    As XJ said, demand armed protection. The threat is documented. Unfortunatly, the police can do nothing here, the employer however is responsible for ensuring saftey in the workplace. If they are unwilling to provide, perhaps you could involve local press (make the morons work for you) and bandy about the idea of a very public "sick out" until the situation is resolved.
    As for carrying at work, it's federal and they say no, so you're kind of stuck there as others have noted.
    Good luck and keep us posted.
    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." T. Jefferson

  4. Have you thought about a taser or pepper spray solution? I understand that either method is not a sure bet however it could be the compromise between safety and felony conviction. Just putting that out there. Im still in the process of getting my ccw so I cannot relate to your confidence at hiding your weapon

    With that said anyone with common sense would understand If you chose to prioritize your safety over employment. (Too bad your employer has no common sense)

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    Once had to deal with an abusive gorilla beating his girfriend (my employe). She was originally from Tuscon an wanted to get away. We helped her relocate back home. I sent her to Tuscon to find another job and gave her a rave review to her potential employer. She bolted with no notice to the gorilla. I once had to stop him from hitting her in the parking lot so this guy was of concern.

    My company policy restricted firearms in the building but not in the car. I did not want to lose a great position over a rule violation yet this guy concerned me. I worried he would blame me for helping her get away. We decided to permanently "lock-down" the office building using card access to enter.

    As Abraham Lincol once said,

    "I long ago made up my mind that if anybody wants to kill me, he will do it. If I wore a shirt of mail and kept myself surrounded by a bodyguard, it would be all the same. There are a thousand ways of getting at a man if it is desirable that he should be killed. Besides, in this case, it seems to me, the man who would come after me would be just as objectionable to my enemies -- if I have any."

    Then again, I believe in the boy scout motto of being prepared. I would not risk your job over a policy violation. I would look for other tools such as deterrence and avoidance. Stay alert (orange mode), carry a decent knife, Locate anything that can be used as an improvised weapon, know everything and everyone around you and stay vigilant. He probably can't gain access into the builing so he'll opt to get her outside. Keep the gun in the car.

    Good luck. Loonies are unpredictable.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

  6. You have to protect yourself

  7. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    I have a problem with your use of "going postal" nut case to describe a domestic shooting spree / spree killing. The term "going postal" has only been used to describe the actions of someone who was employed by the USPS. I have yet to find a news report that used the term "going postal" to describe a work place shooting or any other shooting. So while people misuse the term "going postal" to describe becoming angry to the point of wanting to shoot someone, That is not the definition of it, if it was then there would be news reports using it to describe the shooter. All the news reports I found with the term "going postal" had to do with an employee or ex-employee of the USPS who did a work place shooting.
    Sorry you "have a problem" with my literary lisence. For a number of years now, the term "going postal" has been used here and there as a generic frame of reference for someone ticked off enough to "take it out" on anyone nearby when they finally "snap".

    Since you seem to be in a "language specific" mode..... "going postal" should, by rights, refer to a specific method of mailing something out. But I won't belabor the point.

    I will use the term as I see fit. I will take note of your "problem" with it. Then advise you to "get over it"!

    GG
    Fanatics of any sort are dangerous! -GG-
    Which part of "... shall NOT be infringed..." confuses you?
    Well now, aren't WE a pair, Raggedy Man? (Thunderdome)

  8. #27
    Agreed! If you can get away with it, carry it!
    BUT, if you don't feel that's not a possibility why not carry a knife, or mace?
    Is this a threat that happens often? Can you show proof of this? Would it be possible if you show your supervisors proof they might help you out with protection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grognard Gunny View Post
    Sorry you "have a problem" with my literary lisence. For a number of years now, the term "going postal" has been used here and there as a generic frame of reference for someone ticked off enough to "take it out" on anyone nearby when they finally "snap".

    Since you seem to be in a "language specific" mode..... "going postal" should, by rights, refer to a specific method of mailing something out. But I won't belabor the point.

    I will use the term as I see fit. I will take note of your "problem" with it. Then advise you to "get over it"!

    GG
    Gunny, no! He might get all Texas Tower on you!

  10. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine Falcon View Post
    The ONLY potential "out" I have is that we work in a rented building so the property itself is NOT actual state property; it's privately owned. That might only save me some of the REAL bad consequences of carrying in a government office but I'd still likely lose my job.
    I believe that any property rented or leased by the government is considered government property, especially in reference to carry laws.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    I have a problem with your use of "going postal" nut case to describe a domestic shooting spree / spree killing. The term "going postal" has only been used to describe the actions of someone who was employed by the USPS. I have yet to find a news report that used the term "going postal" to describe a work place shooting or any other shooting. So while people misuse the term "going postal" to describe becoming angry to the point of wanting to shoot someone, That is not the definition of it, if it was then there would be news reports using it to describe the shooter. All the news reports I found with the term "going postal" had to do with an employee or ex-employee of the USPS who did a work place shooting.
    The Urban Dictionary says about the phrase: "originally coined from a series of real life shootings in the postal service, it now usually means that someone is about to go nuts or off the deep end. the reason for going postal is usually trivial. also, means person on psychiatric meds that is off their pills."

  11. #30
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    Build a case now, involve local papers and anyone else over portection issue, get co-workers to join in. If this "nut-case" does show up with no protection being available for you or your co-workers remember how this worked, swat on outside armed to the teeth while you and your co-workers are being killed, thay cannot protect you, I would intend on going home to my wife and kids, have your employer send you a letter/notice of how they intend to protect you and your co-workers. I believe in my absolute right to protect myself and would do so by whatever means are available, get the individual fired that is causing the problem, but protect yourself.

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