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  1. United States Code: Title 18,930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities | LII / Legal Information Institute

    930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

    (g) As used in this section:
    (1) The term “Federal facility” means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.
    Generally, it will be up to the administrator of the building in question whether or not they will allow firearms in the parking lot. On military bases, it is up to the base commander where and how they will allow firearms on the military base.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    So you draw from this that the federal government only protects it's own people and our school children.... Bunch of chickenshits... You can't even carry in a police station... what are they afraid of, they all have guns.... Never mind that you can't forbid a LEO from entering your home with a firearm.... What kind of one sided government do we have here. Perhaps if our elected officials did their jobs and stopped filling their pockets with our money, stopped legislating our rights away, stopped legislating their own power and moral depravity, they wouldn't need to be afraid of armed citizens....Just a thought.
    Keep your paws off my Carrots and my guns
    My rules to live by Never trust a squirrel, never french kiss an ardvark and never bring Jumbo hotdogs to a nudist colony barbcue.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by wild eyed willy View Post
    You can't even carry in a police station...
    We can carry in police stations in Washington state. I've legally open carried in Washington State Patrol office while trying to obtain an accident report.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare45 View Post
    Tell me again how federal carry law and state law protected Columbine. That worked real good, cops: were out here and armed to the teeth, remain calm.
    Exactly. These two misfits broke 18 or 19 state and federal laws. Does anyone think a 20th law would have mattered?

    Same with Cho at VA Tech. He did not obtain his gun legally. He falsley answered the questions on a federal 4473 BATFE form. He checked "no" to the question about mental illness when it had been adjudicated by the court that he seek mental health treatment. That's offering a false instrument for filing. So he committed a federal felony to get the gun. He could just have easily rented a Ford Excursion at the local Avis and mowed down hundreds of kids between classes. On a campus with almost 29,000 students, there sure are a lot of people walking around. And we better start thinking about outlawing the Ford Excursion; it's too powerful a weapon.

    Maybe someday, if we're all good like England, they'll let us have a "spork." With a license to posses of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wild eyed willy View Post
    So you draw from this that the federal government only protects it's own people and our school children.... Bunch of chickenshits... You can't even carry in a police station... what are they afraid of, they all have guns.... Never mind that you can't forbid a LEO from entering your home with a firearm.... What kind of one sided government do we have here. Perhaps if our elected officials did their jobs and stopped filling their pockets with our money, stopped legislating our rights away, stopped legislating their own power and moral depravity, they wouldn't need to be afraid of armed citizens....Just a thought.
    You can forbid a LEO from entering your home without a warrant for search or arrest or while arriving at a call where there is obviously a serious crime being committed. You have a constitutional right against illegal search and seizure.

    In NYS a CCW holder can enter a police station with a gun as long as there is no sign posted.
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    Here in CT, you can't carry in a cop shop.... yet thats where you have to go to get your permit
    Keep your paws off my Carrots and my guns
    My rules to live by Never trust a squirrel, never french kiss an ardvark and never bring Jumbo hotdogs to a nudist colony barbcue.

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    I beleive SCOTUS has allowed warrantless searches if exigent circumstances exist. Your 4th Amendment protection is not absolute.

    No cite.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Swinokur View Post
    I beleive SCOTUS has allowed warrantless searches if exigent circumstances exist. Your 4th Amendment protection is not absolute.

    No cite.
    SCOTUS Okays Warrantless Search of Apartment that Smells of Dope - Law Blog - WSJ

    All the police need now is probable cause established by two simple statements, "We smelled marijuana" followed by, "We heard scuffling behind the door when we knocked and announced ourselves." After that, no warrant is required. Which basically means a warrant is never required.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    I have read the ruling and it appears that the ruling is limited to certain conditions. However I have no doubt that many in law enforcement will abuse this ruling. I would hope that other courts will uphold the spirit of the ruling and see through the stories that some leo may use to justify their forced entry without a warrant. It isnt often that I agree with Justice Ginsburg but this time I do. LT is right this leads to warrantless searches. Oh congratulations LT on your promotion. Do we still call you LT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slo-ls1 View Post
    Thanks for the links LT.
    He's no longer an LT.

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