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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker's Mom View Post
    Sorry to be dense but I thought WI law on carry will be signed after July 4th in time for Airventure? -- No trip to WI this year then...again! GA will not be bad to go to for next month's trip since we all have a FL permit each...
    Sounds like they will sign in into Law on/after July 4th and permits won't be issued until a few months after that. DOJ must compile a list of states where Reciprocity is extended. That step will probably take a few months. Until that's done your other CCWs won't help you in WI

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  3. Tom,

    Think of it like a LEO who needs a backup officer...2 rules should be practiced. More than anything it's a personal choice.

    1. Have a B.U.G. - Backup Gun (2 formats of practice): The first format is because LEOs likely will confiscate your firearm for ballistics tests should you ever be the shooter in an incident, so you would want a BUG to keep exercising your 2A rights. Another format for the BUG is so you have a secondary firearm carried upon your person in the event that your primary fails.

    2. Have out-of-State permits (non-resident permit) from other States in the event that a law has been changed, reciprocity is changed, OR the dunderheaded LEO encounter occurs where you can fall back on that local permit rather than your Missouri permit. The key here is if you're in a State that you have an OOS permit from, THAT'S the permit you show rather than your home-state permit.

    There are several instructors in Missouri that teach OOS standards for other States. You could also explore Florida and Pennsylvania. I'm up for a renewal shortly on my Pennsylvania so I won't have any of the new requirements at my disposal (I know a picture is one of those).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker's Mom View Post
    Sorry to be dense but I thought WI law on carry will be signed after July 4th in time for Airventure? -- No trip to WI this year then...again! GA will not be bad to go to for next month's trip since we all have a FL permit each...
    Once it gets signed it has to be "published". It becomes effective the 1st day of the 4th month after publication.

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    Thanks for those who respond to my post. I really appreciate it.
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  6. Avoids the problem of out of state permits not exempting you from the national 1000 yard school zone law. Not likely you'd get tagged for that, even with an out of state permit, but having one for that state keeps you both within the spirit AND the letter of the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMR2 View Post
    Avoids the problem of out of state permits not exempting you from the national 1000 yard school zone law. Not likely you'd get tagged for that, even with an out of state permit, but having one for that state keeps you both within the spirit AND the letter of the law.

    1000 feet....but otherwise correct.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    1000 feet....but otherwise correct.
    Thank you. It didn't feel quite right when I typed that, seemed like too big of a distance, but I just couldn't put my finger on the problem... :-)

  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMR2 View Post
    Avoids the problem of out of state permits not exempting you from the national 1000 yard school zone law. Not likely you'd get tagged for that, even with an out of state permit, but having one for that state keeps you both within the spirit AND the letter of the law.
    What about in a parking lot in your car? Here in VA you can, gotta leave in your car if you need to go in of course but how would you pick up your kids if you had to?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Tomhusker View Post
    No ****. I was using it as an example. Thanks for your input.
    If you already knew the answer to the question, then why did you ask it? I provided a reasonable answer to the question you asked.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by snatale42 View Post
    What about in a parking lot in your car? Here in VA you can, gotta leave in your car if you need to go in of course but how would you pick up your kids if you had to?
    In order to comply with the Federal law, the gun would have to be unloaded and in a locked case:
    18 USC 922(q):

    (2)
    (A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—
    (i) on private property not part of school grounds;
    (ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    (iii) that is—
    (I) not loaded; and
    (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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