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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    What is it with people who say don't drink if your carrying your firearm. What because I want to have a beer with my dinner that means I have to give up my right to defend myself if attacked. If police can do it then I should be able to do it. After all police are just citizens so if they are allowed to drink and carry when they are not working why is it that we can not do the same?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey NavyLCDR: Overcome his mistake? If he happens to be impaired one of these days and ends up shooting someone who was not causing him imminent danger or great bodily injury, it is probably a felony; it is the same as driving a car "drunk" and causing death by auto--that is manslaughter. Sorry, if you want to CC and you want to embrace the carrying of a firearm, your responsibility for drinking has taken a big turn upward--no room for a mistake without a consequence and a severe one at that. Don't agree--fine--just my opinion. End of story.
    Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket or been stopped for speeding and let go with a warning? More people die every year due to accidents involving excessive speed than are shot by drunks carrying guns. So, according to your theory, anybody stopped for speeding should lose their driver's license.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  4. Well Kelcarry. Some of us grown ups who can handle our sh** can still function in an adequate mental and physical capacity above .08. Since half a zima impairs you to the point of incoherentness then yes you should not carry. However, a grown man with hair under his arms more than likely can have 5 beers and still make conscious decisions about their danger level while keeping in mind the parameters for lethal force set by their state. One should not have to forfeit their right to defend yourself because they had a few beers at theneighbors BBQ or what have you. You weren't wrong to carry OP, you were wrong to get caught...but it happens. I'm sure Texas is littered with pro gun/carry lawyers so just start with the first one in the phone book or ask someone around there.

  5. way off topic here to start off but i've thought the same thing as terminal lance in a way but say you had a few, go home sleep and someone breaks into your house with a deadly weapon? you all are going to tell me you wont pull the trigger all because you know before you went to sleep you had a few and would still show in your system? anyways we all make mistakes yes that sucks but we are all human this thread could go in so many different directions i just hope it comes out for the best for you in the end and you can move on with your life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket or been stopped for speeding and let go with a warning? More people die every year due to accidents involving excessive speed than are shot by drunks carrying guns. So, according to your theory, anybody stopped for speeding should lose their driver's license.
    Apples & oranges. The people driving cars regardless of the circumstances outnumber people carrying concealed by a million to one. And the vast majority of people speeding and causing great bodily harm and death to others on the road have been drinking, are drunk, or are on drugs. I don't believe that everyone stopped for exceeding the speed limit should lose there license, but I do believe that anyone caught driving under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs should lose their license, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminal Lance View Post
    Well Kelcarry. Some of us grown ups who can handle our sh** can still function in an adequate mental and physical capacity above .08. However, a grown man with hair under his arms more than likely can have 5 beers and still make conscious decisions about their danger level while keeping in mind the parameters for lethal force set by their state. One should not have to forfeit their right to defend yourself because they had a few beers at theneighbors BBQ or what have you. You weren't wrong to carry OP, you were wrong to get caught.
    Sounds like something a typical "grown up" drunk with hairy armpits would say.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    but I do believe that anyone caught driving under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs should lose their license, period.
    And the EXACT same standards should be applied to carrying a firearm. There is no law against being in possession of an automobile or the keys to an automobile while drinking. There are laws against OPERATING a motor vehicle while drunk, except in exigent circumstances such as taking someone to the emergency room. There should be no laws against possessing a firearm while drinking or intoxicated. There should be laws against OPERATING a firearm while intoxicated except in exigent circumstances such as self defense.

    Make the ACTION illegal, NOT the object!
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Get a lawyer who is committed to the unrestricted Second Amendment right to carry who will tell the jury in the opening statement of your trial: "What part of shall not be infringed don't these libratards understand?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    And the EXACT same standards should be applied to carrying a firearm. There is no law against being in possession of an automobile or the keys to an automobile while drinking. There are laws against OPERATING a motor vehicle while drunk, except in exigent circumstances such as taking someone to the emergency room. There should be no laws against possessing a firearm while drinking or intoxicated. There should be laws against OPERATING a firearm while intoxicated except in exigent circumstances such as self defense.

    Make the ACTION illegal, NOT the object!
    "Operating" a motor vehicle or "carrying" a gun concealed while drunk, same standard should apply. Again apples & oranges (automobiles vs guns), splitting hairs, etc., going nowhere.
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    It's not that I was being negligent and carousing around with a firearm. I ha been out and went home and ate and "sobered up" the only problem is that it was a small town and the police had seen me earlier after the bar (not carrying) and I was ready to leave the town and was stopped (while carrying as any of you would do to leave anywhere) and was surrounded. It's not that I was blasted drunk or blatantly disregarding the law, I was just in a sticky situation. Yall should have some kind of heart for this because I know at some point you have made a bad decision and have paid for it. This is not my way of saying F you to the gun community. It is my way of reaching out for help, admitting my wrong, and looking to improve on it. There is NO WAY I would place myself in this type of situation ever again.

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