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    Quote Originally Posted by kimberscp45:219983
    You need to jump on line and revisit that. Nevada DOES in fact require that you notify them. They usually know when they pull you over.

    Before I started carrying full time, I was asked a couple of times (at traffic stops) if I was carrying.

    I've had my Nevada, Utah and Florida licenses for close to nine years now but really started carrying full time about 4-years ago; after my 84-year old next door neighbor was home invaded and a month or so later, an officer was shot in my backyard (his partner shot and killed the perp and the officer ended up fine after nearly dieing from a shot to the femoral artery).

    If you've got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to tell them.
    Only ten states require you to notify the officer. Washington is not one of those. Do you believe your 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment rights are as important as your 2nd?

    I have nothing to hide and they have no right to ask me if I've been stopped for doing nothing illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimberscp45 View Post
    You need to jump on line and revisit that. Nevada DOES in fact require that you notify them. They usually know when they pull you over.

    Before I started carrying full time, I was asked a couple of times (at traffic stops) if I was carrying.

    I've had my Nevada, Utah and Florida licenses for close to nine years now but really started carrying full time about 4-years ago; after my 84-year old next door neighbor was home invaded and a month or so later, an officer was shot in my backyard (his partner shot and killed the perp and the officer ended up fine after nearly dieing from a shot to the femoral artery).

    If you've got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to tell them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    Only ten states require you to notify the officer. Washington is not one of those. Do you believe your 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment rights are as important as your 2nd?

    I have nothing to hide and they have no right to ask me if I've been stopped for doing nothing illegal.

    Neither is Nevada.

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    The whole, if you have nothing to hide, then there is no reason to not tell them, started bugging me. Something seemed, all around, wrong with that statement. So I went online to search for stuff about privacy. I found a good article that I think anyone who thinks they have nothing to hide should read. The best responses I read though, would be these:

    "I have nothing to hide...but I have nothing I want to show you [officer] either..."

    "Do you own curtains?"

    This is the article Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education
    It's a bit lengthy but it covers a lot.

  5. "This is the article Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education
    It's a bit lengthy but it covers a lot."

    Wow! Great stuff here. I copied it to my hard drive so I can grok & cherish it in leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimberscp45 View Post
    If you've got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to tell them.
    REALLY?

    So similarly, "if you've got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to":
    • Consent to a complete warrantless search of the car.
    • Consent to a complete warrantless search of your person.
    • Consent to a complete warrantless search of your home.
    • Consent to speak without benefit of counsel.


    I GUARANTEE you that when Officer Harless of the Canton PD was informed that he was the subject of an IAD investigation, he didn't consent to ANYTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimberscp45 View Post
    If you've got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to tell them.

    That
    is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on the internet
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post

    That
    is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on the internet
    I have to disagree with you.

    THR - View Single Post - CCW and Probable Cause To Search

    If one of my officers ever came into possession of any firearm they'd be obligated to check to see if it was stolen - or they weren't doing their job properly, it's as simple as that. Yes, there are lazy cops who couldn't be bothered but I simply wouldn't put up with it. If I found out that one of mine didn't check every weapon that they had their hands on out on the street, we'd be having a talk (the second time disciplinary action would follow if I found out about it...). A quick check of the serial number in my state, Florida, wouldn't provide any info about anything other than whether the gun was reported stolen. Whether the one in possession of a stolen weapon was going to jail depended on the circumstances. All of us (and this is more than fifteen years ago) were well aware that hits on stolen guns weren't always 100% reliable since a lot depends on what agency, or what individual, made the entry. Any way you look at it, a reported stolen weapon needs to be taken off of the street. That's the kind of police work we all should applaud, particularly honest gun owners
    THR - View Single Post - CCW and Probable Cause To Search
    I'm with Cane...Only a lazy cop would not run the serial number on a weapon or any other often stolen item like electronics that he has legitimately got in his hands.
    THR - View Single Post - CCW and Probable Cause To Search
    I will say that while I've never had a gun stolen. However, I hope that if I ever do that the cops are doing what I consider their job to recover it.
    My reply:
    THR - View Single Post - CCW and Probable Cause To Search

    My television set was stolen. You won't have a problem if the police check the serial number of yours in your house, then, will you. The cops would just be "doing what I consider their job to recover it."
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    I've carried for over 50 years, with and without a CHL. I've only been traffic stopped a very few times in the 50 years, maybe 8 or 10 times at the most (the last was 2 weeks ago for minor speeding). I have never voluntarily told an officer that I was carrying, and never will. However, If I am asked, I will tell them honestly and produce CHL if needed. In my state it's not against the law to not inform the officer, unless he asks.

  10. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by 50SR9 View Post
    I live in a must tell the LEO state. I have no problem with it. The times I have been stopped and informed the officer, he just ok and went about his duties. No problems, no further questions about it. Most officers realized the background check you go through to obtain the permit, so I think that takes a lot of the tension away. Being up front, respectful and friendly goes a long way too.
    I also live in Oklahoma, My experience is the same as yours. Having said that, if I were a police officer I would assume that everyone is carrying and be appropriately cautious. So the requirement to notify is superfluous, in my opinion. I DO, however have a huge problem with police officers who take your weapon from you during an encounter. My gun is no threat to any officer and my desire to keep my weapon under my control and not surrender it to someone who is going to attempt to unload it out on the street is equal to his desire to go home at the end of his shift. For his safety he wants to take my weapon, but he wouldn't let me take his weapon for my safety.
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    Honestly, it depends on their attitude. Routine stop, I'm speeding or some other minor traffic infraction, if they aren't being rude, I am going to inform. If I were a cop, I would want to know. Not just for my safety, but for many reasons. Around here, it usually leads to chat about what you carry, when you got your permit, etc.

    Then again, I was involved in an incident where someone hit my car and fled the scene, and the responding officer was friends with the driver, so he was a first class a-hole from the word go. Planned on telling him when he arrived at the scene, and promptly changed my mind.

    Another time I was aiding in the search for a missing person, my husband was open carrying, and he and the deputies had a friendly conversation about what everyone was packing.

    I don't have to inform in Idaho, but I will if I don't see a reason not to.

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