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    How Do You Feel About Notifying LEO That You're Carrying

    The Ohio incident really got me to thinking about whether or not it is reasonable (or necessary) to inform LEOs that I've got a weapon. I know in some states it's required, and in others, no such notification is required.

    I realize we've got the constitutional right to bear arms, and the limitations on that right seem to vary from state to state and even city to city. Even though I live in Oregon, and I'm not required to let a LEO that pulls me over know I have a weapon, I can't imagine why I wouldn't immediately do so.

    There are rogue cops out there--I'm not going to debate that point. But the majority of cops out there are decent, humane men and women who just want to do their job and go home to their families in one piece. And from my own personal experience, for the most part, they do a thankless job.

    I personally want to be respectful enough of an officer's feeling of well being and safety to let him know about my weapon right from the start. I can't imagine it would help his blood pressure to find it some other way (if he did find it at all).

    If it's not required by law, disclosure is definitely a personal choice. As for me, I'm leaning toward early, voluntary disclosure. I have no idea what kind of a call that officer was on earlier, and what his stress level might be when I meet him. So I'd like to keep the confrontation as civil and calm as possible. I realize there are some folks here from some states or municipalities that have had a much different experience with law enforcement than I have, and I'm anxious to hear from them.
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    in texas its required, but i believe they changed the law to this???? not sure, but id inform anyways, u know a cop has a gun and the last thing id want to do is be patted down then meet the ground or my car or his muzzle cause it spooked him or whatever cause he didnt know i had it. so id inform not only cause i have to, but might as well keep it calm, and civil to start with. i have cops in the family so i highly respect their thankless job and will do whatever i can to keep my end of the situation calm and respectful.

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    I'm with you,I'm leaning toward early, voluntary disclosure. I have no idea what kind of a call that officer was on earlier, and what his stress level might be when I meet him. So I'd like to keep the confrontation as civil and calm as possible.I am in Texas so it is lind of mute. I will add at night I would turn on the interior lights of my car and keep my hand at 10 and 2 until I am asked for ID and insurance. I would also give the LEO both Drivers Licence and CHL (CCL) at the same time at the same time I am telling Him/Her I have a CHL and am carrying.

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    Even if informing is not required by law, it is still the polite thing to do, and its better for your own safety.
    It shows that you are honest, law abiding, and have nothing to hide. It would also put the majority of officers at ease because people who plan on hurting the police dont warn the cops that they have a gun. It also shows you have a genuine interest in the cop's safety and your willing to be cooperative and open.

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    I have been stopped few times. On the times I have been stopped I did not notify the LEO that I was carrying (its not required in Nevada unless asked). I think but I am not sure that the police know someone has a CCW based on a run of the license plate. I just keep my hands on the wheel maintain a neutral attitude and give short answers to questions. I have been let go with a warning on most occasions and been treated well each time. I don't see the need to complicate matters by notifying an LEO that I am carrying. If asked, I will say I have a CCW and again if asked I will say that I have a firearm. If not, I don't think it should matter in a traffic stop and I don't feel I need to volunteer the information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aj's 40 cal:218159
    in texas its required, but i believe they changed the law to this???? not sure....
    It is still state law but a couple years back they modified the law by removing the penalties for failure to produce your physical CHL. I think the changes were intended to be some kind of safe guard in case someone forgot their CHL. Or at least that was how I understood the changes.

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    The one time I was pulled over, when the officer approached me & asked for my license, I gave it to him & told him "I feel it is my duty to inform you that I am armed." The officer said that he appreciated that & asked where it was & I told him.
    In Missouri, your CCW can be on your license or on an ID, your choice.
    From listening to our police scanner I know that if you have a permit, the dispatcher will inform the officer that you are CCW. They will even tell the officer if a caller they know by name & possibly address is CCW. I know this because when I had to call the police & wanted contact with the officer I heard them tell the officer that the Caller was CCW. Pretty cool hearing them talk about you on the scanner like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    Even if informing is not required by law, it is still the polite thing to do, and its better for your own safety.
    It shows that you are honest, law abiding, and have nothing to hide. It would also put the majority of officers at ease because people who plan on hurting the police dont warn the cops that they have a gun. It also shows you have a genuine interest in the cop's safety and your willing to be cooperative and open.
    DesertEagle put it perfectly! Even if you don't have a duty to notify, it shows that you have the officer's safety in mind and you are being courteous. If he asks you to get your insurance card or something else out of your wallet, he can feel comfortable that you're not going for your gun because you wouldn't tell him about it if you planned on shooting him! Even if he removes it from your holster and holds onto it for safety, it makes him feel better and everything goes better for you, so who cares? Keep the conversation light and remember, he's a person, too!
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    The proplem I have with these threads is that I some how get the feeling that it's normal for a cop to be suspicious of a legally armed citizen. It shouldn't be that way.

    The state of Colorado recognizes my right to self defense to the point that a permit is not required to conceal a weapon in my car. (CRS 18-12-204) So, should those people inform?

    The quickest way I know to find an anti cop is let them know you're armed If I let the cop know I'm armed, the stop is likely to take longer, I'm more likely to be harrassed, and I'm more likely to be exposed to unsafe gun handling by the cop.


    Of all the states that allow CC only 10 require you to notify the officer during a police interaction. I think that's significant, we're at, what 49 states that allow ccw? and only 10 feel that Officer safety is enhanced by requiring notification. In many states (Colorado included) no permit is required to carry a concealed weapon in your vehicle, how would a law requiring notification by permit holders affect them? More significantly, how would such a law affect the thousands of criminal who ignore every other gun law on the books on a daily basis?

    I can't see how informing a police officer you're heeled can do anything but escalate tensions, especially if you win the lottery and inform an officer who thinks anyone with a CCW is a wannabe cop.

    There's no benefit to me if I voluntarily inform so I don't. I'm required to produce my permit and a valid I.D if I'm asked that would be the only time I would do so.

    I also think threads like this don't change people's minds at all, sheep are sheep it's in their nature it's who they are.
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    I give early disclosure, but for a completely different reason than what is being said in this thread. I do it for MY safety. As you all stated, i dont know this person that just pulled me over for whatever reason, I dont know his attitude of the day...so for my safety I don't want him shooting me. Do I agree with it, no. If a police officer looks up my DL, sees a chl, that alone should tell him I went through the legal steps to carry a gun. Good people do it the right way. A bad guy won't have a chl on his record.

    I deserve as much respect from them, as they do from me.

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