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  1. Gun Show Question

    So I decided to go check out a gun show. What a waste of money that was. Just a bunch of junk, i thought i'd see some cool guns. Nope, just junk, crap guns, and coins. This is my first gun show i've decided to go to. Usually i just hit up Cabela's.

    Anyway, they had a sign up that said all guns must be checked in, this includes concealed carry. I think, the hell i'm letting you hold my gun. Its concealed and you can't see it anyway.

    Should i disarm or not?

    This was at a hotel convention center, not owned by the gun show and they allow firearms on the property.

    Montana law says i only have to remove my gun in government buildings, banks, post offices, and in schools.

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    This is mostly a safety measure, there have been accidents when people pulled out their pieces to test new holsters, etc etc. Just imagine you take your gun out (safely) and set it down on the sales table to try a different model and somebody walks up from behind you, sees your gun, thinks it's for sale and "dry fires" it. Voila. That sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getlost4x4 View Post
    Montana law says i only have to remove my gun in government buildings, banks, post offices, and in schools.
    You might want to reread that Montana law. Montana law does NOT require you to remove your gun in those places, nor does it prohibit carrying guns in those places. Montana law only prohibits CONCEALING a firearm in those places.

    45-8-328. Carrying concealed weapon in prohibited place -- penalty.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  5. i have a Wyoming Concealed Permit.

    I'm not reading in the part where it says you can carry open in a bank, school etc. Maybe you can direct me to that one.



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    It's an insurance issue too, I think. Like they have to post that and zip-tie any guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getlost4x4 View Post
    i have a Wyoming Concealed Permit.

    I'm not reading in the part where it says you can carry open in a bank, school etc. Maybe you can direct me to that one.
    Laws in the United States do not define what is a legal activity. Laws in the United States define what is illegal activity. So, the question is not, "Show me a law that says it is legal." The question, in the United States' legal system is, "Show me the law which makes it illegal."

    The website you have posted:
    Concealed Weapons - MT Dept of Justice

    contains correct information. Notice, "No weapons, concealed or otherwise, are allowed in school buildings in Montana." is correct because of this Montana law:
    "45-8-361. Possession or allowing possession of weapon in school building -- exceptions -- penalties -- seizure and forfeiture or return authorized -- definitions. (1) A person commits the offense of possession of a weapon in a school building if the person purposely and knowingly possesses, carries, or stores a weapon in a school building."

    So, let me ask you, show me where Montana statute 45-8-361 allows me to carry books into a school building? Where is the law that says books are permitted in the school building? Of course books are permitted in the school building; why? Because there is no law that prohibits books in school buildings.

    Notice this from the website you posted, "Even with a concealed weapons permit, you may not carry a concealed weapon in the following places:

    buildings owned or leased by the federal, state or local government
    financial institutions
    any place where alcoholic beverages are sold, dispensed and consumed" which is also a true statement based on this Montana statute:

    45-8-328. Carrying concealed weapon in prohibited place -- penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of carrying a concealed weapon in a prohibited place if the person purposely or knowingly carries a concealed weapon in:
    (a) portions of a building used for state or local government offices and related areas in the building that have been restricted;
    (b) a bank, credit union, savings and loan institution, or similar institution during the institution's normal business hours.
    (c) a room in which alcoholic beverages are sold, dispensed, and consumed under a license issued under Title 16 for the sale of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
    There is NO law in Montana that makes it illegal for you to open carry a firearm with or without a license. There is NO law in Montana that makes it illegal to openly carry a firearm into a bank, government building, or place serving alcohol. So, my question to you becomes, "Show me the Montana statute that makes open carry illegal in a bank, government building or place serving alcohol." There isn't one. Therefore that activity is legal, just like carrying a book into those places would be legal, because there is no law against it.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Concealed carry means cannot be seen. Does anyone truthfully expect everyone to simply hand it over at the door?
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
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    At least in some states, I believe there have been additional guidelines iike this to keep gun shows from being stopped altogether. Sorry I don't have more on this at the moment. Like with most other places that have "No gun" signs, they may be able to cite a person with trespassing assuming they do not initially leave upon being discovered.

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