How to handle a traffic stop while carrying concealed
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  1. How to handle a traffic stop while carrying concealed

    I recently saw an episode on Best Defense about how to handle a traffic stop while carrying concealed. I was pulled over a couple of weeks ago and followed the instructions I had seen on the program to the letter. When the officer approached my truck I had my window open and both hands on the steering wheel. She asked me how I was doing and I politely stated..."Before we go any further, I want to inform you that I have a concealed carry permit and I have two loaded weapons in the truck...how would you like to proceed." The officer asked me where the guns were located and I told her. I forfeited my guns to the officer and we proceeded with the traffic stop. When all was said and done she returned my firearms to me and thanked me for handling the situation the way I did. Was I nervous? Yes. But I felt much more at ease about the whole situation by bringing my pistols to her attention right up front.

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    Glad it worked out for you. In what city/state did this occur?

    Bruce

  4. Not sure what your state laws are but nowhere in our state laws does it say we must surrender the firearms. I would respectfully decline for this primary reason, 1-Never, never hand anyone a loaded firearm. Glad it worked out for you but since you have a ccw permit that should identify you to LEO'S that you have been vetted and are a "Good Guy". I personally take exception to being treated otherwise but that's just me.
    I don't necessarily mean everything I say, I just do it to see the [email protected]@K on your face - HueMan 1998

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgbtg1970 View Post
    I forfeited my guns to the officer and we proceeded with the traffic stop.
    Funny... I've been stopped 3 times while carrying in my vehicle (chronic speeder I am), I never said anything to the police officer about my guns or CPL and I didn't have to forfeit anythig to them...and once the cop even asked me to exit the vehicle because he wanted to speak to me in private, not in front of my family, and he didn't say anything at all about the openly carried PT-145 in a holster on my belt.

    I just don't see the need to inform police about items I am in lawful possession of and legally carrying, when there is no requirement in my state's law to do so (Washington).

    Also, I'll bet the cop checked the serial numbers of your guns to see if they were stolen.

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    Oklahoma laws only allow them to take your firearm if it is an arrest.
    They have the right to see them but that is it.
    Crime has no boundaries - Carry Safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by retiredman View Post
    Oklahoma laws only allow them to take your firearm if it is an arrest.
    They have the right to see them but that is it.
    First, respectfully, police officers have no more rights than you or I do. They have authority. Also, what gives police the authority in Oklahoma to "see" firearms? That seems to be contrary to Oklahoma statute 21-1290.8. Possession of license required - Notification to police of gun. Notice paragraph E.:

    E. Nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize a law enforcement officer to inspect any weapon properly concealed without probable cause that a crime has been committed.

    http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/OK...itles/os21.rtf
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  8. I don't give law enforcement any information they don't ask for. I believe that the cop is smart enough to ask if they feel it's important. I just don't want to waste their time.

    I've had dozens of law enforcement encounters over the years while I was carrying. (DUI checkpoints, vehicle accidents, moving violations, witness to fights or minor crimes). At no time did any of these public servants ask. And at no time did I tell.

    I've been asked dozens of questions. (Some of them really stupid). But at no time did they ever ask if I had a Pistol.

    I guess they just weren't interested.

    And in every instance things went smoothly.

    I just don't get why people try to make things more complicated than they are. I really think people just need validation.

    I realize that in some States the Law requires notification.

    In that case I suggest just handing the cop the Pistol License along with the DL and Insurance card. But I've been told your method works too.

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    My wife and I were pulled over last December coming home from Christmas shopping. The officer told us that he pulled us over because there had just been a beer run at the local CVS Pharmacy (about half-a-mile away) and that the perpetrators were seen leaving in a black SUV. Since we were travelling in a direction away from the CVS in a black SUV, he thought he'd take a look. While he did ask us if we'd mind him looking in the back of the vehicle, he never asked about any firearms nor did I tell him that I was carrying concealed. After assuring himself that we were NOT the suspects he was looking for, he wished us a good night and let us go on our way. He was courteous and polite all the while.

    After we began driving again my wife asked me why I didn't volunteer that I was carrying. My response was simple: I didn't want to complicate the situation unnecessarily. My brother is a patrol seargent in the same jurisdiction and we've had many conversations about concealed carry and a few along these lines in particular and he agrees that unless an officer asks, there is no reason to tell. In Arizona, an officer may take temporary possession of a legally concealed firearm during a stop for his or her own safety. But I would agree with HueMan that you should never hand anyone a loaded firearm. In that case, it makes sense to do as I would with anyone else who wants to look at my gun: drop the mag, extract the round in the chamber, and hand it to them (muzzle down) with the slide locked open.

    But that's a good topic for our next cigar conversation.

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    I am up herein Michigan, I was stopped by the cops in a seat belt check. I didn't tell them I had a CPL when she checked my DL she was informed of the CPL and asked why I didn't tell her, I said I was not carrying. She told me next time to tell them even if I wasn't carrying. As was said before it is for their safety as well as yours. They will tell you if they want to hold the pistol or leave it where it is.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by unclewayne17 View Post
    As was said before it is for their safety as well as yours. They will tell you if they want to hold the pistol or leave it where it is.
    I don't understand how telling a cop that I have a CPL and a gun causes them to be any safer.... I am not going to shoot them whether or not I tell them I have a CPL or a gun. They are just as safe whether I tell them or not and whether they find out for themselves or not.

    Seems to me like I am the safest if nobody, including the cop, is handling my gun during a traffic stop. Inviting the cop to handle my gun by informing them of it's presence actually causes my safety and the safety of others to be in peril if the cop decides that they must handle my firearm

    Also, police officer is the tenth most dangerous job in America. Garbage collectors die more often on the job than cops do. Does that mean if I see my garbage man I should tell him I have a gun? After all he just wants to go home safe to his family at night, right?
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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