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  1. #31
    Sorry Miles... in Washington, you must be in possession of your permit when carrying. Same as when driving, you must have that license on you or risk being cited.

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  3. #32
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    One possible defense: how/where you carrying? I can't tell all how or if ORC defines "concealed." Or was this a vehicle violation?

    If you were carrying in an OWB holster, I'd try to make case that it wasn't concealed.

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    I expect cops to know and obey the law.

    I have EXACTLY the same expectation of people with CHLs.

    If you're supposed to have your CHL and another form of ID when carrying, that's what you should do.

  5. #34
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    I adhere to the strict interpretation and conduct of the law when it comes to my CHL; I always have it with me. And I consider it reflects badly on all concealed carriers when a law is violated by a concealed carrier whatever state they're in.
    Sorry, no soup for you.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by milesihrig View Post
    Hello,

    I was in an incident last week that I will not go public with until my trial is over, however I was charged with Ccw. I am a valid Ohio Ccw permit holder, however I did not have my permit on me during my arrest but once my name was ran it showed that I did have a valid permit??? was it right or wrong for the officer to charge me with Ccw?
    I have to say, you start off by saying that you are not going to go public with the incident, then you start a discussion about it! Then you admit to not having your permit on you and want US to tell you if the officer was right to cite you. Don't you know the law pertaining to this? If not, you are not what I would consider a conscientious carrier and you need to educate yourself-and not by asking unknown persons on an internet forum! I'm sure I come across as harsh but you are supposed to know this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derby View Post
    I do not consider my right to carry a privilege. The second amendment guarantees it as a right. Having said that, I do always carry the paper the state of Indiana issued to me that says it's OK with them that I carry.
    You have a right to carry a gun. You have a privilege to carry it concealed. Just because the 2nd Amendment gives you the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn't mean that state and local governments don't have a right to add restrictions.

    Additionally, I don't think that the right to own a gun necessarily means there shouldn't be some restrictions attached. For example, while I don't support mandatory registration of every gun, I don't know how to reconcile that with proactively preventing people who aren't supposed to have one from getting one. Maybe rather than something on a drivers license saying we have a CCW, maybe we should put something on it that flags the person as being a convicted felon. A law abiding citizen should have their right to privacy respected, but a convicted felon shouldn't necessarily be entitled to that right, at least as far as possessing a weapon is concerned.

  8. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by BuddhaKat View Post
    You have a right to carry a gun. You have a privilege to carry it concealed. Just because the 2nd Amendment gives you the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn't mean that state and local governments don't have a right to add restrictions.
    I most sincerely doubt the founding fathers had any intentions that restrictions could or would be added by the states, counties or cities. My guess is that they would even have allowed a convicted felon to posses a gun once he had served his time for the crime committed.

  9. #38
    I always have my CCW license in my wallet along with my drivers license. Maybe it will be a good rule to have it like that. In that way you know you always have it. CCW and drivers license, don't leave home without it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derby View Post
    I most sincerely doubt the founding fathers had any intentions that restrictions could or would be added by the states, counties or cities. My guess is that they would even have allowed a convicted felon to posses a gun once he had served his time for the crime committed.
    Well you would be wrong.

    The Tenth Amendment
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    There are also several Supreme Court rulings, including the recent rulings on Heller (or McDonald, I can't remember which), affirming the local right to regulate just about everything Except ownership in the home and the right of self defense. As much as we all want to see the laws enforced and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, we can only do that through local, state, county, city, laws. Granted, there are a lot of gun laws on the books that we all want to go away, but we're still regulated by local laws.

  11. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Yep, it sucks that gun control laws only affect law abiding citizens and have no effect on criminals - other than to make their lives easier by disarming more victims.
    So, the laws suck because BGs get to rob banks and we don't? OR, if the good guys don't follow the rules, why should we? Having a little trouble with the logic here. Nobody said OP couldn't carry a gun, he just didn't obey the law and carry his permit/license. I have my TN DL and HCP in a small leather bifold along with my two medical cards (Retired Military ID and Medicare card) in short essential ID. I even carry the case in my house. If I am not in my PJs or skivvies, I have all important ID on me.

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