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    Quote Originally Posted by glockk23 View Post
    Wow thanks for all of the replys. They really helped. I took her out to a buddys land and I showed her everything she would need to know about weapons. Then I showed her from a concealment point how long it takes to draw your weapon. Not long with practice but still. Then showed her without having to load a " invisible round " would take compaired too if I had to draw, rack the slide, aim somewhat then fire. She noticed the difference and I also showed her how the gun " isn't just going to fire on its own and how to make sure it doesn't happen. Then I ran her through some fake attacks and she realized she nor I could get a stab in or shot off with fake guns when a round is in the chamber. So she now doesn't mind it and she wanted too shoot my gun all day. Actually had to run to walmart for target ammo. So overall she is better educated and understands . Thanks for everyones help :))
    Sweet! Good news indeed and congratulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Starr View Post
    So just learn the Israeli method. You will still be well armed and make the little lady happy.
    Jake, what's the Israeli method?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonbreath View Post
    Jake, what's the Israeli method?
    Please see this thread http://www.usacarry.com/forums/conce...hey-doing.html

    Since the Israelis are reflexively brought up every time someone mentions carrying with an empty chamber, maybe we should look at why they carry (or carried) with an empty chamber.

    When the Israeli Defense Force was orginally formed back in the 40s, they were armed with whatever weapons they, as a nation, could quickly acquire. This meant that their pistols were a mish-mash of different designs. Some single action, some double action, some with safeties, some without. Many were not drop safe. Many did not have holsters.

    They needed one simple method to train a large number of people, many of them inexpereinced in the use of arms, regardless of what weapon they had. The result was to carry with the chamber empty and rack on the draw. This method:

    1) works regardless of the gun's design (SA, DA, safety, no safety)
    2) prevents a non-drop-safe gun from going off if dropped (a real possibility when you just stick it in your waistband because you don't have a holster)
    3) avoids the possibility of someone not accustomed to a safety sticking a loaded, cocked, and unlocked single action into their waistband

    It is important to note that this method IS A COMPROMISE.

    There is no tactical advantage to be gained from carrying this way. In fact there is a tactical disadvantage, because it requires both hands. With a modern firearm, there is no safety advantage to be gained from carrying chamber empty, either. (One possible exception to this is someone trying to shoot you with your own gun, but if you are planning your carry method based on someone stealing your concealed gun from you before you can react, perhaps you should reconsider carrying a gun.)

    If you need to use a gun in self defense, you're already behind the curve because:
    A) You didn't see the situation coming in time to avoid it.
    B) You weren't able to find and take an escape from the situation once it started.
    C) You weren't able to control or de-escalate the situation before a gun became your only option.
    D) You need a gun RIGHT NOW.
    E) Your gun is still in it's holster (because you don't draw before you need it, right?)

    Why put yourself at a further disadvantage by having that holstered gun unloaded as well?

    You are not a member of the IDF. You are not mandated to carry your gun in a less-than-optimal manner. Why would you choose to handicap yourself this way? Why would you carry in a manner that may require more hands than you'll have available? That takes more time to deploy? That precludes the ability to fire from retention? That requires putting the gun out there in a place that's bad for retention?

    The Israelis don't carry chamber empty becasue it's tacti-cool. It was a compromise that gained a bit of needed safety at the cost of tactical advantage. Today, now that they have standardized, modern pistols, many Israelis (like SWAT and special forces units) do carry with a loaded chamber.


    Just carry with one in the pipe, already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockk23 View Post
    Wow thanks for all of the replys. They really helped. I took her out to a buddys land and I showed her everything she would need to know about weapons. Then I showed her from a concealment point how long it takes to draw your weapon. Not long with practice but still. Then showed her without having to load a " invisible round " would take compaired too if I had to draw, rack the slide, aim somewhat then fire. She noticed the difference and I also showed her how the gun " isn't just going to fire on its own and how to make sure it doesn't happen. Then I ran her through some fake attacks and she realized she nor I could get a stab in or shot off with fake guns when a round is in the chamber. So she now doesn't mind it and she wanted too shoot my gun all day. Actually had to run to walmart for target ammo. So overall she is better educated and understands . Thanks for everyones help :))

    Very cool. Nice when things work out like that.

  6. "Please see this thread "Israeli Carry" is for people who DON'T know what they are doing"

    Thanks for the post. I needed a good laugh. I could introduce you to many "who don't know what they are doing" and have more than a 100 successful missions to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Starr View Post
    "Please see this thread "Israeli Carry" is for people who DON'T know what they are doing"

    Thanks for the post. I needed a good laugh. I could introduce you to many "who don't know what they are doing" and have more than a 100 successful missions to prove it.
    I'm sure you could, but COD doesn't count
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    Educate her on guns

    Finding that's typical of people that have never been around guns and know nothing about guns. They just here horror stories from others. My wife was the same way. Now she owns a ruger gp 100 and like shooting 38 spl's. Was pulling up th the house one night noticed there was a light on. First thing wife said,"do you have your gun with you. Had to clear the house for her. Wife may have had light on that after noon before we left and forgot to shut light off.

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    My questions is who wears the pants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan45 View Post
    My questions is who wears the pants?
    I have to admit, that was the first thing that popped into my thoughts. But hey to each their own. My wife was a little squeamish at first, not so much that I carried but that she didn't have any real gun experience. 4 days and about 800 rounds later at the Front Sight training facility in Nevada and there haven't been any worries since (except "when are we going shooting again")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan45 View Post
    My questions is who wears the pants?
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