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    Smile Congress Moves Closer to Restoring a Key Second Amendment Freedom

    Making Progress.

    Chris W. Cox

    Thanks to the good work of millions of American gun owners and NRA members, Congress is moving closer to restoring one of our fundamental freedoms guaranteed by the Second Amendment.

    Ten days ago, the House Judiciary Committee considered amendments to the “National Right-to-Carry-Reciprocity Act” (H.R. 822), which would allow any person with a valid, state-issued concealed firearm permit to exercise the right to carry a firearm in any state that permits concealed carry.

    Some members of the Committee tried to weaken the bill with anti-gun amendments, and I’m happy to report that every one of them failed. The committee is expected to pass the bill soon, after which it will go before the full House for a vote.

    As of today, 49 states have laws in place that permit their citizens to carry a concealed firearm in some form or another. Only Illinois completely denies its residents the right to carry a concealed firearm outside their homes or businesses for self-defense, an injustice for which President Obama fought hard when he was an Illinois state senator.

    In 41 of these 49 states, law-abiding citizens can carry a firearm without having to navigate an overly restrictive bureaucratic process.

    The problem is that some states allow visiting permit holders from other states to exercise their right to carry, and some states do not. As you can imagine, this presents a nightmare for interstate travel, as many Americans are forced to check their Second Amendment rights, and their fundamental right to self-defense, at the state line.

    The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act would solve this problem by simply requiring states that allow concealed carry to recognize each other’s permits. Nothing more.

    Predictably, gun-ban organizations like the Brady Campaign and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s deceptively named “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” are doing everything they can to demonize H.R. 822, as are their allies in the anti-gun media.

    First, they tried to scare Americans into thinking that H.R. 822 would unleash a new “wild west” atmosphere in the United States. This tactic fell flat because nearly every state in the nation already allows concealed carry and none of these outlandish predictions have materialized. In fact, quite the opposite has occurred.

    On average, the 41 states that have the most tolerant right-to-carry laws have 22 percent lower total violent crime rates, 30 percent lower murder rates, 46 percent lower robbery rates and 12 percent lower aggravated assault rates, compared to the rest of the country. This is likely due to the fact that, as a group, citizens with permits to carry a firearm are more law-abiding than the general public.

    Having failed at scaring Americans, the gun banners are now falling back on the Tenth Amendment as their main argument against H.R. 822. It’s a poorly conceived argument, as you might expect from groups that spend the majority of their time trying to trample the same “states’ rights” that they now want to hold up as sacrosanct.

    The fact is the Tenth Amendment is most certainly sacrosanct – that’s why, in the 1990s, the NRA supported a successful constitutional challenge to provisions of the Brady Act that violated it. But the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act doesn’t violate the Tenth Amendment. Rather, the Act recognizes that the Second Amendment guarantees the fundamental, individual right of every law-abiding citizen to bear arms for safety when traveling.

    This is an inalienable right that neither the federal government, nor any state government, may infringe upon. In addition, the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to protect us from states that infringe on our inalienable, constitutional rights.

    By the way, these are the same gun-ban groups that don’t give any consideration to states’ rights when they lobby for sweeping federal gun bans, ammunition bans, and magazine bans.

    NRA has made the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act a top priority because it restores a fundamental, inalienable right guaranteed to all law-abiding Americans by the Second Amendment. All Second Amendment advocates, gun owners and pro-gun groups should be campaigning for the passage of this bill.

    Also, as a general rule, no one should ever take seriously any lessons on constitutional law from groups whose sole mission is to destroy our most basic civil right guaranteed in the Constitution: The right to bear arms and defend ourselves and our loved ones…no matter which state we’re in.
    Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia...Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

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    Infringing on the 2nd AND 10th Amendments do NOT HELP us in our "cause" it only furthers the infringements and gives yet more credibility/power to the Government that it CONSTITUTIONALLY DOES NOT HAVE.....

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    Shall not be infringed means just that, no where in this bill is the federal gun free zone around schools removed, so this bill will not protect you in any state you are not licensed to carry a concealed weapon. I am for constitutional 2nd amendment.

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    Mr Cox has absolutely hit the nail on the head on every single point.

    I'm hoping this bill is passed and on top of hope, ill be contacting my senators and house rep and letting them know I want this passed. I suggest the rest of you do the same.

    Oh and for the record, I OC 100% of the time, there are those of you here that could learn a lesson from my support of your method of carry.

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    I appreciate your support of my preferred method of carry and although I don't OC, I support your right to do so, If that's what you want.

    KK

    Quote Originally Posted by Unfettered Might View Post
    Mr Cox has absolutely hit the nail on the head on every single point.

    I'm hoping this bill is passed and on top of hope, ill be contacting my senators and house rep and letting them know I want this passed. I suggest the rest of you do the same.

    Oh and for the record, I OC 100% of the time, there are those of you here that could learn a lesson from my support of your method of carry.

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    "This is an inalienable right that neither the federal government, nor any state government, may infringe upon. In addition, the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to protect us from states that infringe on our inalienable, constitutional rights."

    So, by your logic... forcing States to allow Unconstitutional laws is Constitutional? What kind of screwed up logic are you trying to feed us? You are stating the 14th amendment as proof that this junk is allowable???? IT (14th Amendment) ACTUALLY PROVES THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!!!!!!!!!!! Why dont you read the 14th BEFORE you use it as an example?

    Here is section one of the 14th.....

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    Section 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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    Isnt the 2nd Amendment part of our "privileges or immunities" that we have as citizens? Isnt this Amendment is supposed to help protect them?

    CCW permits are infringements to begin with. Yet you insist that forcing the States to adhere to infringements isnt infringing, how stupid do you think we are?

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    I got a post card in the mail today from NRA-ILA commending my local representative for his support in favor of H.R. 822. It asked me to call him and thank him for his efforts.

    May be a good idea for all of us to find out how our representatives voted and give them a call to let them know how we feel. If they get good feed back they might just keep doing things to get more good feed back! kind of like giving a treat to the puppy for peeing out side! Reinforce the good behavior.

    OBTW! I am in favor of 822.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeanda45 View Post
    "This is an inalienable right that neither the federal government, nor any state government, may infringe upon. In addition, the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to protect us from states that infringe on our inalienable, constitutional rights."

    So, by your logic... forcing States to allow Unconstitutional laws is Constitutional? What kind of screwed up logic are you trying to feed us? You are stating the 14th amendment as proof that this junk is allowable???? IT (14th Amendment) ACTUALLY PROVES THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!!!!!!!!!!! Why dont you read the 14th BEFORE you use it as an example?

    Here is section one of the 14th.....

    _______________________________________________
    Section 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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    Isnt the 2nd Amendment part of our "privileges or immunities" that we have as citizens? Isnt this Amendment is supposed to help protect them?

    CCW permits are infringements to begin with. Yet you insist that forcing the States to adhere to infringements isnt infringing, how stupid do you think we are?
    Bingo! I see your III and raise you a percent! Now if the feds want to enforce the 14th then I could reconsider the need for their involvement.

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  10. Will this bill help gun laws in erie county n.y?? its hard as it is for us to obtain a unrestricted permit Now and dont allow other states to enter with a sidearm

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    As much as I dislike the 14th amendment and the fact that it has been stretched nearly as far as the commerce clause in "justifying" federal power, it is currently a valid part of the constitution. If it can be used to spread invented rights from liberal strongholds throughout the country, it should also extend the basic enumerated constitutional rights to all.

    Personally, I would hang national reciprocity on the full faith and credit clause (Art. 4 Sec. 1) of the constitution.

    It won't get through the Senate though...

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