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  1. It's not always justified is what I was getting at. There's always some weird loophole defense lawyers seem to find. Or let's not forget the civil suits where the assailants sue the victims for silly things like being shot while robbing someone's house. It's not the norm but it DOES happen.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion View Post
    It's not always justified is what I was getting at. There's always some weird loophole defense lawyers seem to find. Or let's not forget the civil suits where the assailants sue the victims for silly things like being shot while robbing someone's house. It's not the norm but it DOES happen.
    Happens a lot more then many think.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by rifleshooter474:244317
    Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion View Post
    It's not always justified is what I was getting at. There's always some weird loophole defense lawyers seem to find. Or let's not forget the civil suits where the assailants sue the victims for silly things like being shot while robbing someone's house. It's not the norm but it DOES happen.
    Happens a lot more then many think.
    Exactly. Can't stress enough how in danger you better be to draw simply to protect yourself lawfully. It's unfortunate but it happens

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    Does anybody else remember the guy at the gas station that was attacked, grabbed his gun from in his car and put two in the attackers gut? Was he not justified to shoot someone attacking with fists?

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    ^ Good grief. Are you serious? Do you know *anything* about self defense law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Green:244343
    ^ Good grief. Are you serious? Do you know *anything* about self defense law?
    Uhmmm, greenie, it is an actual case he is talking about........Now would YOU care to tell us who knows what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Green:244343
    ^ Good grief. Are you serious? Do you know *anything* about self defense law?
    Apparently you didn't get the memo, it's been brought up recently that arguing ad hominem is getting old. Try some relevant information next time. It will help out a lot more.

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    I'm familiar with the incident. He was justified. That's why he wasn't prosecuted. Again, do either of you know anything *at all* about the legal use of deadly force? It appears not. All I see are a couple of untrained yahoos with far too much ego invested in carrying a gun. Obviously compensating for something. Some anger issues too. It's people like you who make me feel more gun control might actually be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Green:244351
    I'm familiar with the incident. He was justified. That's why he wasn't prosecuted. Again, do either of you know anything *at all* about the legal use of deadly force? It appears not. All I see are a couple of untrained yahoos with far too much ego invested in carrying a gun. Obviously compensating for something. Some anger issues too. It's people like you who make me feel more gun control might actually be a good thing.
    You do realize the police still arrested the carrier in the gas station shooting? He must of been the bad guy if he got himself arrested then right? Neither victim was prosecuted, and no charges were filled for the act of self defense. No attacker showed up to court to press charges, just like the OP. Both the attackers and the attacker in the OP have violent criminal records, both self defense victims had a clean record. The only difference was one bad guy backed off and the other didn't.

    Is it possible for you to debate like an adult and stop name calling? I am not sure what compensation or anger issues you are referring too...but you are the only one with an attitude that is unbecoming of a carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B2Tall View Post
    I fully understand that there are sometimes mitigating circumstances, but I was speaking with respect to the OPers experience. As I pointed out on my first post in this thread, he's not elderly, disabled, a woman, etc. and therefore could not use any of that as an excuse for his actions in court.

    Had the punk showed up for the trial, I can imagine what the prosecutor would ask the OPer:

    DA: Was the man who allegedly threatened you alone??
    OP: Yes sir.

    DA: Didn't you have a friend there with you??
    OP: Yes sir.

    DA: Did the man have a weapon in his hands?? Did you see a weapon??
    OP: No sir. None that I could see.

    DA: To your knowledge, was he a trained fighter??
    OP: Not to my knowledge.

    DA: Are you a trained fighter??
    OP: Yes sir.

    Not looking good for the OPer. Too many other options to take before whipping out the iron. I don't believe the law would have been at all sympathetic.
    Exactly! The intent of my post was in agreement with you. He was a young, healthy individual trained in martial arts who did not face the imminent use of force of such magnitude to justify introducing a firearm.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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