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    Quote Originally Posted by StubbornYankee View Post
    The 2nd amendment does not give/grant you the right to have guns.

    What it does is protect, and guarantee, the inalienable right (shall not be infringed) to keep & bear arms.

    As an American, you are born with this right. And you have that right even without the 2nd amendment.

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    I agree with you that the U.S. Constitution does not confer rights but was written to recognize and protect unalienable rights. I agree that as an American you are born with these rights. I would take it a step further that all individuals, everywhere in the world are born with these rights including the right to keep and bear arms. Most governments on earth put forth much effort to infringe on the unalienable right of individuals to protect themselves with firearms and many other rights. The U.S. Government was different from the beginning because it was formed to protect individual rights. Unfortunately it has devolved into a player of favorites and perpetuates certain groups against others.

    When individual rights are guaranteed and protected by a government, everyone is free. When governments promote and protect the rights of certain groups over others, nobody has true freedom but instead are either suppressed and infringed upon or are dependent on the government and are kept on strings like puppets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StubbornYankee View Post
    The 2nd amendment does not give/grant you the right to have guns.

    What it does is protect, and guarantee, the inalienable right (shall not be infringed) to keep & bear arms.

    As an American, you are born with this right. And you have that right even without the 2nd amendment.


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    Appreciate the replies. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by StubbornYankee View Post
    The 2nd amendment does not give/grant you the right to have guns.

    What it does is protect, and guarantee, the inalienable right (shall not be infringed) to keep & bear arms.

    As an American, you are born with this right. And you have that right even without the 2nd amendment.

    Am I right?
    What?
    Sounds like you are talking about sunbathing!

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    Excellent discussion. Inalienable versus Individual versus State versus Federal versus Imagined rights...did I get the order correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Toad View Post
    Has anyone had this thrown at them? I was having an online discussion with someone and he came up with "concealed carry violated his right to know who might be able to do him harm".
    I told him there was no such right, that the 2nd Amendment gave me the right to have guns, and my State issued CHL gave me the right to carry a weapon while concealed. He is of the belief that the 9th Amendment is his right to know who is armed and who isn't. I call BS on it. Anybody dealt with this before?

    9th Amendment. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    He's way off on the 9th but maybe this would be a good response to him.
    I was talking with a very intelligent but somewhat liberal lady. ( hmmm oxymoron? not really in this case, very rare)
    She actually uttered something that I really didn't think people actually considered in real life. Just in talking points by hard core anti-gunners.
    She said for those carrying "What if they lost their temper?" Meaning that out would come their gun and they would just blast away.
    I explained that "An armed society is a polite society." That carrying has the opposite effect, You just don't lose your temper. Nobody wants any situation to escalate to confrontation where you just might have the final say and the negative ramifications for that.
    I said to her "that we all might have lost our temper to a degree (not me of course) especially when younger. What makes you (her) think that without a gun that I didn't have the ability to kill someone either without any weapon or anything other a gun that would end up qualifying as a weapon." Everyone for the most part has that ability without a gun.
    Those people are pretty much weeded out in carrying legally by their past violent behavior and arrest records.

    Rambling but the point is just tell your friend that you don't need a gun to do him harm and not to piss you off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapGun View Post
    He's way off on the 9th but maybe this would be a good response to him.
    I was talking with a very intelligent but somewhat liberal lady. ( hmmm oxymoron? not really in this case, very rare)
    She actually uttered something that I really didn't think people actually considered in real life. Just in talking points by hard core anti-gunners.
    She said for those carrying "What if they lost their temper?" Meaning that out would come their gun and they would just blast away.
    I explained that "An armed society is a polite society." That carrying has the opposite effect, You just don't lose your temper. Nobody wants any situation to escalate to confrontation where you just might have the final say and the negative ramifications for that.
    I said to her "that we all might have lost our temper to a degree (not me of course) especially when younger. What makes you (her) think that without a gun that I didn't have the ability to kill someone either without any weapon or anything other a gun that would end up qualifying as a weapon." Everyone for the most part has that ability without a gun.
    Those people are pretty much weeded out in carrying legally by their past violent behavior and arrest records.

    Rambling but the point is just tell your friend that you don't need a gun to do him harm and not to piss you off!
    She is way off base. I've lost my temper and while armed, who hasn't, and did not blast away at anyone. That's just the same as anti gun lib's said about gun carrying permit holders blasting away because of road rage, lost parking spaces and rude people cutting in line. Just more of the same old anti gun BS!
    I mean really! Who needs a gun to kill someone? They do it all kinds of ways every day with ordinary objects or just plain old pushed out a window!
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    There you go. Libs like that are already thinking that their first option is to go for the gun. After all why have one otherwise.
    Legal gun owners aka normal people he he The gun is the last thing on their mind, if ever, to solve a problem. Of course the situation dictates.
    So it is not the legal gun owners that are obsessed with guns but the anti gun culture that is obsessed! Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StubbornYankee View Post
    The 2nd amendment does not give/grant you the right to have guns.

    What it does is protect, and guarantee, the inalienable right (shall not be infringed) to keep & bear arms.

    As an American, you are born with this right. And you have that right even without the 2nd amendment.

    Am I right?
    Hell of a first post! Welcome!

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