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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit4earth View Post
    Two things bother me: 1) that most people on this forum seem to assume that there are no "libtards" on the forum, and 2) that most of you seem to think that liberals don't carry guns. I'd like you folks to reconsider your opinions. I am both liberal and a gun owner. I have a concealed carry permit, and I do carry a gun. I'm not the only so-called liberal to do so.
    I live in North Carolina, and I disagree with a lot of the current politicians, however I agree with the very recent changes to our gun laws, which I think most of you would agree with, too. Don't lump all liberals together, and I won't lump all conservatives together. Look for the things we have in common.
    And what do we have in common with big government people in favor or restricting rights and oppressing the citizens again? I seem to have forgotten.

    Agree with the new gun laws? Ah...no.

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    Well, you CAN reach a liberal... you CAN change their minds... I do it quite regularly.

    We done good for shooting sports the other day....

    Six of us took 12 administrative staff members from a VERY LIBERAL, Liberal Arts Christian University on a range outing last week at one of their members request. It was to be a "recreational, yet competitive outing.

    We got feedback today, and this is part of the response from our point of contact at the University.....

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    You folks apparently hit the mark in their eyes, as we have never seen such a happy group. We have received nothing but positive comments and high praise. The on-scene University representative who was also a participant in the shoot had mentioned that you didn't charge them enough (for all they got to do and how it was organized). Apparently, he really enjoyed himself. You folks made our group feel at home, comfortable and safe. Before the event, some of the participants that had little or no firearms experience had expressed being nervous, anxious and not looking forward to the shoot. You all caused them to have a total turn-around - they had a great time (they were apparently still talking about it) and you made them feel like part of a "family" that was much larger than your local group. Some of the previous non-shooters are now talking about taking shooting lessons.

    The event was so well received that the university will likely come back in the future to see if you might be interested in hosting a University Management Retreat event. Clearly folks are riding the emotion that comes with something fully enjoyed and embraced....
    Good for the shooting sports.....
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by BIGJOHN621 View Post
    And what do we have in common with big government people in favor or restricting rights and oppressing the citizens again? I seem to have forgotten.

    Agree with the new gun laws? Ah...no.
    Very important that you understand that I agree with the new NORTH CAROLINA gun laws which begin 10/1. Ah...yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit4earth View Post
    Very important that you understand that I agree with the new NORTH CAROLINA gun laws which begin 10/1. Ah...yes.
    you don't seem to grasp the 2nd amendment, all gun laws are an infringement upon the right to keep an bear arms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    Well, you CAN reach a liberal... you CAN change their minds... I do it quite regularly.

    We done good for shooting sports the other day....

    Six of us took 12 administrative staff members from a VERY LIBERAL, Liberal Arts Christian University on a range outing last week at one of their members request. It was to be a "recreational, yet competitive outing.

    We got feedback today, and this is part of the response from our point of contact at the University.....

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    Good for the shooting sports.....
    Excellent! We as a political and sporting gun groups should promote this kind of positive endeavour to get the word out. We must win the hearts and minds of those who will fill out our ranks. The more of us the less of them. The more likely we'll be able to beat the gun control ilk from trying to pass those dang gun safety BS laws.
    Good job Jay!
    ~Responsible people who understand that their personal protection is up to them, provide themselves with protection. Those that don't have only themselves to blame.~Proud NRA ~SAF~GoA Member~

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit4earth View Post
    Very important that you understand that I agree with the new NORTH CAROLINA gun laws which begin 10/1. Ah...yes.
    Not only do I agree with what apvbguy said about your lack of grasping the real meaning of the 2nd Amendment, I seriously doubt you know what is in the new NC law that was only signed into law by McCrory two days ago. Or, if you do know what's in it, you are exactly the kind of liberal that no constitutionalist or 2nd Amendment proponent should trust to support/defend/uphold/or otherwise advocate for our nation's adherence to its charter documents.

    Maybe the most troubling aspect of this "new" law is that it carries on the long-standing requirement of any and all citizens who wish to buy, receive as a gift, or even inherit a handgun to acquire a permit from your local sheriff to do so. From the "new" law, which is the same in practical application as the old law:

    14 - 403. Permit issued by sheriff; form of permit; expiration of permit.

    The sheriffs of any and all counties of this State shall issue to any person, firm, or corporation in any county a [license] (MY NOTE: "license" is the only word struck from the "new" section) or permit to purchase or receive any weapon mentioned in this Article from any person, firm, or corporation offering to sell or dispose of the weapon. The [license] or permit shall expire five years from the date of issuance.


    It appears to me that you still cannot carry, open or concealed, in a vehicle, and your carry weapon must be locked up (completely inaccessible) while in the vehicle.

    The prohibition on guns being allowed on school and college campuses by either licensed students or staff is kept intact, guaranteeing a victim-rich environment for whack-jobs like Lanza, Loughner and Holmes for perpetuity.

    Since the law was only signed by McCrory two days ago, knowledgeable analysis of its final version is hard to find, and most that I found concede that the new law is confusing at best, and won't be fully understood until the most ambiguous provisions start getting tested in court. The pro-gun, pro-2nd-Amendment, and pro-Constitution side of the blogosphere doesn't seem to be jumping for joy at this point though.

    So Mr. Liberal Gun-Owner & 2nd-Amendment-Supporter, how about you read through the link I gave you to
    the "new" NC set of laws and tell us what you like about them and why you like them? Give us that "common ground" we can all get behind on North Carolina's behalf.

    Gun control laws are people control laws. Doesn't matter if your specific state loosens, strengthens or maintains the status quo of its laws, they are still controlling the people of your state in direct contravention to the mandate of the 2nd Amendment. It is complete and predictable liberal orthodoxy to support such laws, so all you've said in claiming to support this new law is that you're just like every other leftist. We have nothing in common, because I seek to control no one, and seek to defeat all who do.

    Blues

    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit4earth View Post
    Very important that you understand that I agree with the new NORTH CAROLINA gun laws which begin 10/1. Ah...yes.
    I understood your position to begin with. Restrictive, oppressive and here is the important part. Please put your thinking cap on as this is a tough concept for liberals to grasp. Ready?

    IT WON'T STOP ONE ATTACK OR SAVE ONE LIFE BECAUSE THE CRIMINALS WILL IGNORE IT. THAT'S WHAT YOU PEOPLE NEVER GET.

    Now, what about common ground again?

  9. Libterds crack me up. They're always good for a laugh, especially about issues such as gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbutcher68 View Post
    An extreme liberal woman I've known since grade school, said that I carry a gun as an extension of my manhood. I told her that like my gun, that part of my anatomy stays concealed until needed and she will never see either one!
    THAT'S GREAT!!!!!! I'll definately remember that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karch03 View Post
    I recently started carrying myself. My friends who are not gun owners find it odd but also don't view the world or pay attention to the times we now live in. I find it odd that they don't know the local crime rates or follow the news of the shooting the night before. I may be odd to them but they are just as odd to me for having blinders on to the world. Its a give and take but its my choice.
    That is an interesting insight. With the internet, 24 hour news, and 1000 TV channels to choose from, how many people actually watch the evening news from their area?
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