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    Employer property rights vs my right to safety??

    I just picked up a part time job to supplement my other part time job, but it is for a company that has a policy against employees having even a folding pocket knife on the property while on the job. The location is in a very high crime area (sadly, as it was the only place willing to pay what I need) and I will be working alone throughout the entire night. I am all for respecting property rights and not carrying where asked not to do so, but...while in the course of employment, I feel that a policy such as this which advocates complete submission, even when facing death, is a violation of my rights. This also happens to be a very wealthy corporation, and it is not an individual's property. I have decided to bring a small caliber semi-auto just in case my life is in jeopardy because I feel that alive and broke is better than being killed just to keep a job. Am I overstepping or am I right? I'd like your opinions.

    To clarify, I absolutely need the money, so looking for another job at this point is not an option.

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    I believe in private property rights also, but your car is your property, and as far as I'm concerned, they have no right to tell you what you can or cannot keep in YOUR property. The fact that it's parked in THEIR parking lot is immaterial. Your car is your car and what's in it is no one's business but your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I have decided to bring a small caliber semi-auto just in case my life is in jeopardy because I feel that alive and broke is better than being killed just to keep a job. Am I overstepping or am I right? I'd like your opinions.

    My thoughts exactly. As long as your not breaking a LAW by carrying, who cares about breaking policy, as you've said, alive and unemployed is better than dead.

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    I also work for an employer with a policy against firearms on their property. When I work after hours, I do carry concealed. But I do that knowing I can, and probably would, be fired if I messed up and managed to let someone know I was carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I feel that a policy such as this which advocates complete submission, even when facing death, is a violation of my rights.
    Remember that when HR is walking you out the door (likely with Police escort) and you get turned down for unemployment because you were fired for legitimate cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I have decided to bring a small caliber semi-auto just in case my life is in jeopardy because I feel that alive and broke is better than being killed just to keep a job.
    Remember to say exactly this when you are interviewing for your next position and they ask you Why did you leave XYZ Corp. Mr. dad? (This assumes that the hiring manager didnt call XYZ and find out that youre not eligible for rehire because you violated their (XYZs) work place violence policy and you even get an interview)


    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    To clarify, I absolutely need the money, so looking for another job at this point is not an option.
    Looking for another job isn't an option but losing your job is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I have decided to bring a small caliber semi-auto just in case my life is in jeopardy because I feel that alive and broke is better than being killed just to keep a job. Am I overstepping or am I right? I'd like your opinions..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
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    Looking for another job isn't an option but losing your job is?
    The only reason anyone would find out would be because my life was in jeopardy. Until then, I cash my checks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    I believe in private property rights also, but your car is your property, and as far as I'm concerned, they have no right to tell you what you can or cannot keep in YOUR property. The fact that it's parked in THEIR parking lot is immaterial. Your car is your car and what's in it is no one's business but your own.

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    We do have that preemption in WI...but I mean it will be in a pocket or ankle holster.

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    Yup, it's called "CONCEALED" carry for a good reason.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I just picked up a part time job to supplement my other part time job, but it is for a company that has a policy against employees having even a folding pocket knife on the property while on the job. The location is in a very high crime area (sadly, as it was the only place willing to pay what I need) and I will be working alone throughout the entire night. I am all for respecting property rights and not carrying where asked not to do so, but...while in the course of employment, I feel that a policy such as this which advocates complete submission, even when facing death, is a violation of my rights. This also happens to be a very wealthy corporation, and it is not an individual's property. I have decided to bring a small caliber semi-auto just in case my life is in jeopardy because I feel that alive and broke is better than being killed just to keep a job. Am I overstepping or am I right? I'd like your opinions.

    To clarify, I absolutely need the money, so looking for another job at this point is not an option.
    Since you seem to have such a difficult time following your employer's rules, what other policies will you fail to follow? If you believe so strongly, talk to your employer. What would your employer think if he read your post? Would he think you worthy of his trust? I doubt it. Have to admit, though, that we have a president who doesn't follow the rules either, so maybe it's acceptable nowadays or I'm just getting old.
    Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia...Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

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