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  1. nope never been asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudeRick View Post
    Have you ever been approached/questioned/suspected of shoplifting due to bulges from your handgun under your clothing?
    Nope. Never has happened. If it ever does happen, I'll refuse to answer any of their questions. Under no circumstances will I let them see what's causing the problem. Of course, if you're doing it right, they'll never see anything.
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    If they notice and mention a bulge in my clothing I just tell them the viagra hasn't worn off yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarryNM View Post
    I do not have bulges when I carry. What's up Doc????
    I agree with CarryNM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pir8fan View Post
    Of course, if you're doing it right, they'll never see anything.
    concealed means concealed

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    I don't answer questions from store loss prevention employees. I don't steal. I don't cooperate and definitely won't be taken into their custody over suspicion.
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    Question for experienced carriers...

    Now see, that's why I hang out here. I always learn new stuff. I was just operating under the assumption that I had to cooperate.

  9. #18
    ezkl2230 Guest
    I can't speak for other states, but Michigan law protects concealed carriers in the event of accidental exposure of the firearm - whether from bulges or from accidentally exposing the firearm, for instance, when you bend over or raise your arms above your head to get something off a shelf. Historically, in order for an officer to approach a concealed carrier for suspicion of a firearm, they had to be doing something or behaving in a way that suggested criminal activity.

    Of course, these days the courts are ruling more and more that the Fourth Amendment provides us with no expectation of privacy when we are in a public place.

  10. #19
    ezkl2230 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by localgirl View Post
    Now see, that's why I hang out here. I always learn new stuff. I was just operating under the assumption that I had to cooperate.
    Fourth Amendment:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    I know what the courts have ruled over the years, but as a Constitutional constructionist I go with the literal reading of the amendment. The Fourth Amendment protects our bodies from unreasonable searches even when we are in public.

    Probable cause is not enough to trigger a search according to the amendment. Probable cause is the basis upon which a precise, detailed search warrant is issued that gives authorities the right to conduct a search.

    And before anyone says it, it ain't supposed to be easier for authorities to conduct searches. Before the Bill of Rights was ratified, it WAS easier for authorities. The Bill of Rights put the brakes on that!

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    1. Not probable cause. 2. In Texas the only folks who can ask to see your weapon or license is judge or LEO no rent cops no manager no store employee.

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