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  1. #11
    I was also wondering if he got reimbursed for using his vehicle. I'm not sure if that matters or not. You could argue that since they reimburse him for using his vehicle they are acknowledging that the vehicle belongs to him and not the company. Since it is his vehicle he can do what he wants with the vehicle. A company vehicle or a vehicle that the company gives you money to help with the cost of leasing the vehicle would be a different story.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    Here's the deal. You don't mention which state you are from, so no one on this forum can give you a straight answer as to whether you are within your rights or not in your car or at your work place.

    What is true is that if someone that owns private property has told you that they do not want you on their property with firearms, and you don't leave, you are criminally trespassing. Add this to a work site, then you could easily be up for termination.

    Without knowing where you hail or what your state's laws are, the straight scoop is this: some people ignore the law and carry concealed on themselves because they subscribe to a higher moral code and having protection is more important than following a civil mandate.... some people follow the law and this puts them in situations like you are in. Case and point: do what you will, but know you will have to deal with any repercussions of your actions if/when you get caught with a firearm where you aren't to have one OR get caught in a situation where you need a firearm and don't have one because you were following the law.

    Since you are a new poster, please let us know where you are from since each state's laws are different.
    sorry, from new mexico usa. the law does consider my vehicle an extension of my home

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Paul_of_TX View Post
    I was also wondering if he got reimbursed for using his vehicle. I'm not sure if that matters or not. You could argue that since they reimburse him for using his vehicle they are acknowledging that the vehicle belongs to him and not the company. Since it is his vehicle he can do what he wants with the vehicle. A company vehicle or a vehicle that the company gives you money to help with the cost of leasing the vehicle would be a different story.
    i do get paid for reimbursement.. thats a good point that you made too.

  5. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by swmp View Post
    i do get paid for reimbursement.. thats a good point that you made too.
    I'm no lawyer so I have no idea if that makes any difference if they pay you reimbursement while you use your vehicle while on the job. I think a lot of companies make rules that go a little beyond the law and then go on to say that state laws will prevail. Most importantly you need to know what the law says about it.

  6. #15
    I carry at my office. Of course, I own the company too. Glad I don't have to deal with anti-gun companies (although most of this is really coming from their insurance companies)
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Paul_of_TX View Post
    I'm no lawyer so I have no idea if that makes any difference if they pay you reimbursement while you use your vehicle while on the job. I think a lot of companies make rules that go a little beyond the law and then go on to say that state laws will prevail. Most importantly you need to know what the law says about it.
    im not sure if there are any laws that say what a company can or cant do... I know the law states your vehicle is a extension of your home and you can open carry or conceal carry in vehicle. businesses can post no gun signs but i dont really go into a HQ or office.. i travel with the equipment to a location for a few days to a week or so then on to the next location.

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    Ok, what I'm about to say needs reminding that I'm not a lawyer and you should not get your legal advice from a forum, so check everything I say and what everyone else says as well.

    You mention that you are in NM and don't yet currently have a permit/license but you will. You also mention that NM considers your vehicle an extension of your home, therefore you carry in your car currently. You also mention that the company acknowledges that you use YOUR car for company business by reimbursing you. Therefore, that payment acknowledges two very important things: one) it is definitely your car, and two) you are definitely using it for company business or else they would not pay you.

    Now, reading what you said your company's employee handbook says, you may not have possession of your weapon on property or in a vehicle on company business. The gray area here is that the vehicle is mentioned in the same sentence and directly after company property. Now a good lawyer can dissect that sentence to mean a company vehicle on business or a personal vehicle on company business.

    The question you need to ask yourself is: Do I investigate as to the very meaning of the wording of this line in the handbook, and if I do, to whom do I ask the question? If you do investigate it, I personally would not go to anyone that works in the company, because you will get their interpretation. So that leaves two other choices, the company lawyer, or your own.

    The other question you need to ask is: Even if I found out that the employee handbook means I cannot carry in my car on company business, do I still carry in order to protect myself? That, my friend, is a decision that no one can answer for you.

    The last question you need to have answered: Do the NM statutes trump company rule on this issue? That you will need to research by going through NM law on firearms carry.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
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    Many replies with different takes on situation. Bottom line--company says no--if you like your job and everything leads to company no--you agree or take your chances or leave. Certainly makes sense to ask company, as a point of information, based on your concerns--just say it right.

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