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  1. carrying at work....

    this is a general question not specifically aimed at concealed carry all the time...

    i have 6 months then i can get my concealed carry... in the mean time i usually carry in my vehicle... i recently took a job where i travel a lot and stay in rooms a lot, not to mention i carry expensive equitment for work so naturally i carry if its legal...

    i came across this in the employee handbook...

    • Possession of firearms or any other dangerous weapon on company property, in a vehicle being used on company business or at a work-related function.

    this kinda confuses me...

    i can understand them not wanting you to carry when actually on company time but this sounds like they dont want you to have it at all even if your 300 miles away from where u will be working and traveling to the room you will be staying.. not to mention its perfectly legal to carry in your vehicle its your property... or maybe its so pose to mean company vehicle...

    this is my dream job and i dont want to do anything to risk losing it yet on the other hand i feel safer with my handgun... and in this day and age you cant be to careful...


    anyone ever come across anything like this before?

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  3. Is it a Company vehicle or your private vehicle? If it is a company truck, some policies don't allow firearms in their vehicles. (It's USUALLY an insurance thing! )

  4. Consider it this way. Your life is more important than your job, even a dream job. If it's your vehicle, carry in it. Hopefully the need to use it never arises, and odds are that the company will never know you have a gun in your vehicle. If ever you DO need to use it, survival trumps disciplinary action from work any day of the week. Also, in such a circumstance, if the company DID hit you with punitive action, you most likely will have legal recourse. Not so much if you're just a statistic.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by sig1014 View Post
    Is it a Company vehicle or your private vehicle? If it is a company truck, some policies don't allow firearms in their vehicles. (It's USUALLY an insurance thing! )
    it is my personal vehicle that i use to travel.. not sure what that line in the handbook reference to ie company or personal... lol and not going to ask my manager

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    My opinion on your company handbook:

    In any vehicle, company or personal, if you're on the clock, they don't want you to possess a firearm.

    Do whatever you want, just know the consequences of your actions if you get caught by your company. They pay you, they make the rules, you can choose another job.

    The other option to trump their rules, is that some states have laws that deny companies that authority. What does your state laws say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmp View Post
    it is my personal vehicle that i use to travel.. not sure what that line in the handbook reference to ie company or personal... lol and not going to ask my manager
    If it's your personal vehicle, I'd carry. Period.
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    You need to know what your state law says about carrying in your vehicle. In Texas the state law says you can't carry at on school premises, at church or at work if your employer has a policy against it. The TS state law goes on to define school premises as only the building not the parking lot. A Church must inform you that they do not allow CC otherwise it is not against the law. Also your vehicle is an extension of your home and you can carry in your vehicle even with out a permit and your employer can't tell you that you can't keep a gun in your car even if you park on their property.

    Carefully reread your employe handbook. I think my employee handbook says we can't carry or store firearms in our vehicle while parked in the company parking lot. You almost miss the part they threw in about unless allowed by state law. Basically the company tells me I can't keep a gun in my car unless it is allowed by state law. Like AndyF said above some companies do this for insurance purposes and are not really out to be anti-gun.

    Get a small auto safe with a sturdy cable and keep your gun in there and then never tell anyone about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmp View Post
    it is my personal vehicle that i use to travel.. not sure what that line in the handbook reference to ie company or personal... lol and not going to ask my manager
    It said a vehicle being used on company business. If all you're doing is travel to and from work in it that's not company business. Unless you're like a delivery driver and you use your own personal vehicle for deliveries, chances are you're not using your vehicle for company business. With that said, what they don't know won't hurt em. Carried for 2 years working in construction, boss never had a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmp View Post
    this is a general question not specifically aimed at concealed carry all the time...

    i have 6 months then i can get my concealed carry... in the mean time i usually carry in my vehicle... i recently took a job where i travel a lot and stay in rooms a lot, not to mention i carry expensive equitment for work so naturally i carry if its legal...

    i came across this in the employee handbook...

    • Possession of firearms or any other dangerous weapon on company property, in a vehicle being used on company business or at a work-related function.

    this kinda confuses me...

    i can understand them not wanting you to carry when actually on company time but this sounds like they dont want you to have it at all even if your 300 miles away from where u will be working and traveling to the room you will be staying.. not to mention its perfectly legal to carry in your vehicle its your property... or maybe its so pose to mean company vehicle...

    this is my dream job and i dont want to do anything to risk losing it yet on the other hand i feel safer with my handgun... and in this day and age you cant be to careful...


    anyone ever come across anything like this before?
    Here's the deal. You don't mention which state you are from, so no one on this forum can give you a straight answer as to whether you are within your rights or not in your car or at your work place.

    What is true is that if someone that owns private property has told you that they do not want you on their property with firearms, and you don't leave, you are criminally trespassing. Add this to a work site, then you could easily be up for termination.

    Without knowing where you hail or what your state's laws are, the straight scoop is this: some people ignore the law and carry concealed on themselves because they subscribe to a higher moral code and having protection is more important than following a civil mandate.... some people follow the law and this puts them in situations like you are in. Case and point: do what you will, but know you will have to deal with any repercussions of your actions if/when you get caught with a firearm where you aren't to have one OR get caught in a situation where you need a firearm and don't have one because you were following the law.

    Since you are a new poster, please let us know where you are from since each state's laws are different.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
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    When on business in your personal vehicle do you turn in mileage for reimbursement of your expenses? If you do, then it is the same as a company vehicle during the times you are on company business. If you don't, I don't see how the company's policy can apply. Just my 2 cents... for actual legal advice, consult a lawyer; and if you do, let the rest of us know what he/she said.
    "To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt

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