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  1. Quote Originally Posted by thru View Post
    ok, for those who don't have enough background. I see other posts commenting upon it being "silly" to be chamber empty. Because it's "so slow". I point out that I am faster to the hit even if I am carrying chamber empty. So the THE ISSUE IS HOW FAST YOU ARE (or are not) to the hit. If you aint really fast, then your commentary about the chamber empty carry mode is just talk. Since it's rare to have to fire, much less hit, the condition of the chamber doesn't mean all that much. Leave the punk an escape route and get the gun pointed at him early enough, and the odds are quite high that you won't even have to fire. Be too slow to get the gun out and pointed at the guy, and/or corner him, and you'll probably lose out, in one way or another, regardless of whether or not you keep a round chambered.
    All right, boys... I expect you will be runnin' for them hills now?!?



    I think that pretty much says it all....
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    This guy posts just like a troll before...onlypill or something

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    Well whatever he can do with his unchambered chambered firearm ...I can do better...1.5 second rofl I can do that in 0.0025 seconds, finish the drill under 5 seconds. This is scoring 2 hits each on 6 different targets in 6 different directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thru View Post
    ok, for those who don't have enough background. I see other posts commenting upon it being "silly" to be chamber empty. Because it's "so slow". I point out that I am faster to the hit even if I am carrying chamber empty. So the THE ISSUE IS HOW FAST YOU ARE (or are not) to the hit. If you aint really fast, then your commentary about the chamber empty carry mode is just talk. Since it's rare to have to fire, much less hit, the condition of the chamber doesn't mean all that much. Leave the punk an escape route and get the gun pointed at him early enough, and the odds are quite high that you won't even have to fire. Be too slow to get the gun out and pointed at the guy, and/or corner him, and you'll probably lose out, in one way or another, regardless of whether or not you keep a round chambered.
    I would like to propose an exercise of you drawing an unchambered firearm while I spray you with sim rounds...or even just paintball...and have you successfully draw and chamber a round in 1.5sec or whatever your High Speedness claims. Making the scenario a bit more real than just firing at paper targets. Nothing like trying to defend your life/mechanically square away your unchambered firearm under extreme duress. Thats real life High Speed.

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  6. In my family we call a firearm without a round in the chamber a club (as in bat or stick).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thru View Post
    ok, for those who don't have enough background. I see other posts commenting upon it being "silly" to be chamber empty. Because it's "so slow". I point out that I am faster to the hit even if I am carrying chamber empty. So the THE ISSUE IS HOW FAST YOU ARE (or are not) to the hit. If you aint really fast, then your commentary about the chamber empty carry mode is just talk. Since it's rare to have to fire, much less hit, the condition of the chamber doesn't mean all that much. Leave the punk an escape route and get the gun pointed at him early enough, and the odds are quite high that you won't even have to fire. Be too slow to get the gun out and pointed at the guy, and/or corner him, and you'll probably lose out, in one way or another, regardless of whether or not you keep a round chambered.
    So if I were a gamblin' man I could potentally carry without any bullets at all. That would save a lot of weight and the odds are already in my favor. Win Win situation.

  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by chilipeppernorm View Post
    In my family we call a firearm without a round in the chamber a club (as in bat or stick).
    ^^ quoted for da truth!!!

    OP.... Video proof or it didn't happen and yes I'm calling you out.
    If it doesn't fit, FORCE it! If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway.


  9. #18
    I'll keep one in the chamber anyway.

    Your obviously not considering many real life scenarios. Criminals and punks don't always just walk up to you, letting you know your about to be a victim.



    Quote Originally Posted by thru View Post
    ok, for those who don't have enough background. I see other posts commenting upon it being "silly" to be chamber empty. Because it's "so slow". I point out that I am faster to the hit even if I am carrying chamber empty. So the THE ISSUE IS HOW FAST YOU ARE (or are not) to the hit. If you aint really fast, then your commentary about the chamber empty carry mode is just talk. Since it's rare to have to fire, much less hit, the condition of the chamber doesn't mean all that much. Leave the punk an escape route and get the gun pointed at him early enough, and the odds are quite high that you won't even have to fire. Be too slow to get the gun out and pointed at the guy, and/or corner him, and you'll probably lose out, in one way or another, regardless of whether or not you keep a round chambered.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    I'll keep one in the chamber anyway.

    Your obviously not considering many real life scenarios. Criminals and punks don't always just walk up to you, letting you know your about to be a victim.
    And, in addition to that, not every gun loads fully and properly 100% of the time. If the gun malfunctions during loading I would rather have that malfunction occur in the relative safety behind my locked front door rather than in the immediate presence of a criminal I am defending myself against. Loading a gun should be a controlled and double checked process - not a fraction of a second maneuver, IMHO.

    [JESTING]
    In reality, though... I think that anyone who relies upon the "element of surprise" should carry a firearm without a round chambered. Doesn't carrying an unloaded gun greatly enhance the "element of surprise?" I mean if the criminal is going to be surprised by you retrieving your gun from concealment, wouldn't they be that much more surprised if you also had to take time to load it? Also, to enhance "element of surprise" effect I also recommend carrying a pink polymer gun. What bad guy is going to take a pink gun seriously until it is too late?
    [/JESTING]
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by chilipeppernorm View Post
    In my family we call a firearm without a round in the chamber a club (as in bat or stick).
    Around these parts, we call it a rock.
    I'm a firm believer in two term limits for all politicians; one in office, the other in prison.

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