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  1. Teachers have a job of teaching our future leaders. In this day and age where violence is growing exponentially, they should carry!
    (but discreetly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by maestromsv View Post
    Teachers have a job of teaching our future leaders. In this day and age where violence is growing exponentially, they should carry!
    (but discreetly)

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    Why discreetly?

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    I still object to the notion put forward by some here that teachers should only be allowed to carry after receiving extensive, specialized training. Concealed carriers are armed in very public, crowded places all the time - WITHOUT INCIDENT.

    I want my wife to carry in her school for one reason: not so she can assist in clearing the building, not so she can actively seek to confront an active shooter, but so she can come home - alive. That doesn't require any specialized training. I just want her to have the chance to defend herself and the kids in her classroom if the shooter makes the mistake of coming through the door of her classroom.

    In that respect, carrying armed in school takes no specialized training.

    You want teachers to act like a security force? Then yes, train them. I really don't think most of us here are necessarily advocating for that approach. Just let them do in school what they already do in other public places - let them carry. There is no additional expense to be incurred in doing that.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
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    So as not to take away from the classroom atmosphere of keeping students on task at learning. Also, needs to be permitted by the school board. I've read too many stories of teachers losing their job by having a gun in the classroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maestromsv View Post
    So as not to take away from the classroom atmosphere of keeping students on task at learning.
    Therein lies the problem. The liberals have people so brainwashed about guns that the mere presence of one in the classroom is a distraction from learning? How about this: lets teach the kids about the Constitution, and how it protects their inalienable human rights as free Americans. If this is instilled at a young age, and the presence of guns is shown as normal instead of vilified, there will be no disruption in the "classroom atmosphere". It might take a few years to get there, so let's start now.
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  7. With so many shootings in schools today I think itís a ďmustĒ.
    They actually should encourage every teacher to have a locked gun in the classroom or in their pocket.
    One cannot count on police period.
    When I was living in NY couple of years ago I read an article about somebody trying to sue the Police for responding to a 911 call and not helping (it didnít involve guns). The reality was that police is NOT required by LAW to help anybody if they choose not too or itís too dangerous (something like that). So even if they arrive and know that somebody is actively shooting around they donít have to help.
    Not sure if thatís in other states, but it was in NY.
    When my kid is up for schooling Iíll actually verify what is implemented in the local schools.
    For now Iíve made a decision to try homeschooling unless there are at least couple Police/Army trained (not security trained) guards on duty or teachers have access to arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezkl2230 View Post
    I still object to the notion put forward by some here that teachers should only be allowed to carry after receiving extensive, specialized training. Concealed carriers are armed in very public, crowded places all the time - WITHOUT INCIDENT.

    I want my wife to carry in her school for one reason: not so she can assist in clearing the building, not so she can actively seek to confront an active shooter, but so she can come home - alive. That doesn't require any specialized training. I just want her to have the chance to defend herself and the kids in her classroom if the shooter makes the mistake of coming through the door of her classroom.

    In that respect, carrying armed in school takes no specialized training.

    You want teachers to act like a security force? Then yes, train them. I really don't think most of us here are necessarily advocating for that approach. Just let them do in school what they already do in other public places - let them carry. There is no additional expense to be incurred in doing that.
    Yes, trained personnel in a classroom are actually more dangerous

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
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    Quote Originally Posted by XAPbKOB View Post
    With so many shootings in schools today I think it’s a “must”.
    They actually should encourage every teacher to have a locked gun in the classroom or in their pocket.
    One cannot count on police period.
    When I was living in NY couple of years ago I read an article about somebody trying to sue the Police for responding to a 911 call and not helping (it didn’t involve guns). The reality was that police is NOT required by LAW to help anybody if they choose not too or it’s too dangerous (something like that). So even if they arrive and know that somebody is actively shooting around they don’t have to help.
    Not sure if that’s in other states, but it was in NY.
    When my kid is up for schooling I’ll actually verify what is implemented in the local schools.
    For now I’ve made a decision to try homeschooling unless there are at least couple Police/Army trained (not security trained) guards on duty or teachers have access to arms.
    The SCOTUS ruled that police have no duty to protect in 2005. This covers the whole country, not just in NY. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin (maybe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    Yes, trained personnel in a classroom are actually more dangerous

    "I'm the only one in this room professional enough, that I know of, to carry this Glock .40." Wow. What arrogance. AND he's a FED?!

    And he REALLY doesn't understand why no one will trust him that the long gun is empty?!

    I would also love to know how many other "professionals" had handled this firearm before this blowhard did without clearing it. The slide is locked open when he first picks it up, he releases it without ever inspecting the chamber, and then pulls the trigger.

    I have been handling firearms since I was seven years old (over 40 years) and have NEVER had one go off accidentally. In my job I handle firearms dozens - sometimes hundreds - of times each day. NEVER had an accidental discharge. If I had been conducting that presentation, the first thing the kids and parents would have seen me do would be to clear each firearm I handled, even if I was sure they were unloaded. I clear a firearm EVERY time I take it out of the case or box when I'm at work by first removing and inspecting the magazine, then working the slide to make sure there isn't a round in the chamber, and I clear it again the moment a customer hands it back to me. But in this agent's eyes, I'm not a professional. Probably safer that way.

    So this "professional" managed to accomplish a few things: 1) he proved to these kids that cops can't be trusted to safely handle firearms, 2) he gave them a first-hand example of why EVERY firearm needs to be treated as if it is loaded, 3) he managed to shoot himself while bragging about his mad skills as a "professional," and 4) he accomplished the goal of terrifying these kids of firearms. How many in attendance that day will never own a firearm for their own protection because of this fool?

    I would love to know if any of the school personnel or parents in attendance at this event were CPL holders….

    At least one person filming this event was required to turn their tape over to the DEA, and the agent involved in the shooting sued the DEA for violating his privacy when this tape was "leaked;" "Paige, who worked undercover, claimed that the video’s distribution resulted in him becoming the “target of jokes, derision, ridicule, and disparaging comments” everywhere he went." The judge threw his lawsuit out of court (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...uring-gun-demo).

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    You do realize that he also shot himself in the leg too, right? Complete idiot!
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin (maybe)

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