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    Informing has nothing to do with respect, and everything to do with giving up Rights.

    Not informing does nothing to harm those that inform.

    Informing makes cops think they deserve to know who is carrying.

    So while some of you guys think we should do what we do, and you should do what you do, no one is hurting each other is still wrong. Giving up your Rights, makes it harder for us who try and defend them.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Dollar View Post
    You know you're pissing in the wind right?
    He wouldn't be pissing in the wind so much if he could explain why it is that only police officers deserve this "politeness" and "respect" when other people in jobs at high risk of being the victim of violent criminals are not worthy of the same "politeness" and "respect", especially when the statement is made "not treating cops as elite.." in the same post. Again, it is more evidence that people who feel the need for this "politeness" and "respect" only for LEO and not others are not doing it so much for the LEO's benefit (because it doesn't contribute to the LEO's safety one bit), but are really doing it for their own benefit. "Look at what a good guy I am! You don't REALLY want to write me that ticket that I deserve, now do you?" They don't show the convenience store clerk their permit and tell them about their gun because there isn't much chance that store clerk is going to reward them with a free coffee or candy bar. If the act of informing was done 100% for the benefit of the other person, then why is it not also done 100% for the benefit of other people who just don't happen to be LEOs?
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  4. Again I have to ask is this really that big of a deal? I am required to inform by law so in my case the decision has been made but I don't think most folks the police included really give a damn if I'm carrying a gun.

    I probably wouldn't carry my handgun if I were hunting (what's the point right?) but it would be pretty stupid for the cop to walk up to my truck looking right at my duck gun in the rear window and then I have to tell him about the jframe in my pocket.

    In my mind I'm envisioning getting pulled over by my cousin and handing him my card and having him go "Ademas Que?" (roughly and this changes what?)
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Dollar View Post
    Again I have to ask is this really that big of a deal? I am required to inform by law so in my case the decision has been made but I don't think most folks the police included really give a damn if I'm carrying a gun.

    If you can't understand the big deal about requiring citizens to notify police officers of their legal possessions and legal activities then maybe you don't deserve the freedom that Americans have died for to maintain.


    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Friday, Feb 17, 1775
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  6. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Ah... What does that make me?! I carry concealed (sometimes multiple guns!), and I don't have a permit.
    Does that mean that "I'm a bad guy?".
    I don't need some POS government permission slip to carry my firearms.
    If you actually knew what you are talking about, you wold see just how FUBAR your "opinion" is!




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    I agree no Permit should be required but I'm to old to get hassled.
    This video is My County, poor permit holder.

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
    the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    Why are we villifying the cops?
    There are some who equate "vilifying" and "failing to obsequiously fawn over"

    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    I realize that there are a lot of bad apples out there, but those apples are on both sides.
    The "apples" on one side have the entire armed might of the state on their side, as well as a culture of silence regarding their misdeeds.

    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    No where did I say to be subservient to the police. They work for us.
    That's funny, I've seen them on more than one occasion state quite boldly that they DON'T "work for us", but instead for their departments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    Informing has nothing to do with respect, and everything to do with giving up Rights.
    What it has to do with is ritualized shows of submission.

    If telling a cop you're armed (or even moreso that you have a carry credential and AREN'T armed) is a show of "respect", failing to similarly notify the girl at the counter at Wendy's is a show of CONTEMPT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanimator View Post
    What it has to do with is ritualized shows of submission.

    If telling a cop you're armed (or even moreso that you have a carry credential and AREN'T armed) is a show of "respect", failing to similarly notify the girl at the counter at Wendy's is a show of CONTEMPT.
    Hmm.....Now I'm confused.
    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    I believe from de's previous posts, he was being sarcastic in the post you linked too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    He wouldn't be pissing in the wind so much if he could explain why it is that only police officers deserve this "politeness" and "respect" when other people in jobs at high risk of being the victim of violent criminals are not worthy of the same "politeness" and "respect", especially when the statement is made "not treating cops as elite.." in the same post. Again, it is more evidence that people who feel the need for this "politeness" and "respect" only for LEO and not others are not doing it so much for the LEO's benefit (because it doesn't contribute to the LEO's safety one bit), but are really doing it for their own benefit. "Look at what a good guy I am! You don't REALLY want to write me that ticket that I deserve, now do you?" They don't show the convenience store clerk their permit and tell them about their gun because there isn't much chance that store clerk is going to reward them with a free coffee or candy bar. If the act of informing was done 100% for the benefit of the other person, then why is it not also done 100% for the benefit of other people who just don't happen to be LEOs?
    Maybe it's because the cop is definitely armed and the convenience store clerk probably isn't allowed to be? It's polite to inform because you can mutually shoot each other so now you're on closer-to-equal footing, but better not with the unarmed clerk who might freak out since you don't intend to rob him? I dunno...
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