In NC is it still open carrying when you have it tucked in your pants, but shirt isnt
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  1. In NC is it still open carrying when you have it tucked in your pants, but shirt isnt

    Had to make it a little grammatically incorrect for the sake of it fitting in the title, but would I get in trouble with the grip hanging out but the xD hanging the the pants in front of the shirt? To be honest, I'm really starting to rethink the NC CWP right now due to the cost, which isn't horrible but its still $90 for the background check and finger prints then don't mention the class fees which Ive found to be about $60 and I can think of a lot more stuff I can do with $150 at the moment than for a piece of paper from NC telling me I can conceal my gun, which to me should require a permit(Go Arizona), but its a law and I abide by them. But then again, I might just stick with getting an AZ non resident because heresy said that you can take an online cheap class and the background fee is only $60 and my state allows literally all CWP within the contiguous US. Tell me your feelings on it. Also, Yes I am the guy that was asking about the best non resident and then went on about just dealing with my stomach pain and getting an NC one lol.

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    How much do your spend on ammo and range time?
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  4. That's hard to say to be honest. I don't really have a regular range time or anything. Last month Id say about $50 between range and ammo(just range ammo, not self defense ammo), and maybe this whole year together $200?(trust me, Id go a lot more if I had the opportunity)

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    The exact definition of 'concealed' isn't spelled out in NC law (http://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/32344299...-gun-Laws.aspx), but having volunteered with a law enforcement agency and interacted with quite a few LEOs I can say that virtually all NC LEOs I know would consider the firearm 'concealed' in the situation you describe. If caught without a Concealed Handgun Permit you may prevail, but you will very likely end up defending your opinion in court.

  6. Yeah, better safe than sorry. I appreciate the input. Also, now that Maine and AZ both are starting to move away from CWP, any news or likely hood for this to happen to NC? Id hate to pay for the class and background check for something that in a few months could be a piece of laminated paper when I could invest it in more boom sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachm View Post
    Yeah, better safe than sorry. I appreciate the input. Also, now that Maine and AZ both are starting to move away from CWP, any news or likely hood for this to happen to NC? Id hate to pay for the class and background check for something that in a few months could be a piece of laminated paper when I could invest it in more boom sticks.
    $60 - 75 for a class and 90 for the permit will hardly purchase any handgun that I would ever want.

    Constitutional carry in NC? Naw, that's not going to happen.... Far to many liberals from the north have moved into the state.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperBob View Post
    The exact definition of 'concealed' isn't spelled out in NC law (http://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/32344299...-gun-Laws.aspx), but having volunteered with a law enforcement agency and interacted with quite a few LEOs I can say that virtually all NC LEOs I know would consider the firearm 'concealed' in the situation you describe. If caught without a Concealed Handgun Permit you may prevail, but you will very likely end up defending your opinion in court.
    If the firearm was concealed, then how would the LEO know it was a firearm being carried?
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Well, in the scenario described by Zachm the gun is not entirely concealed by the shirt. Also I have certainly seen people with a 'concealed' gun that was clearly printing and obviously there, even though covered. And if you ever have to use the weapon in self defense, which is after all the reason you're carrying it, the question of whether you have a CHP will certainly arise. You may argue that if the officer could see the person was carrying a gun because he could see part of the gun, as in the scenario first described, then it wasn't actually concealed, which seems a reasonable statement. What I'm saying is that this argument may or may not succeed in court, but its not going to stop the officer from arresting you and you having to argue about it in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachm View Post
    Yeah, better safe than sorry. I appreciate the input. Also, now that Maine and AZ both are starting to move away from CWP, any news or likely hood for this to happen to NC? Id hate to pay for the class and background check for something that in a few months could be a piece of laminated paper when I could invest it in more boom sticks.
    I completely understand the issue of permit price, I got an Arizona non-resident permit a couple years before I got my NC permit. It was cheaper, and I could use my NC Hunter Safety training class to meet the training requirements. At that time the training had to include a life-fire component so you couldn't use just an online course. Virginia accepts online training classes with no life-fire requirement for their non-resident permit, I saw a class online for $35. But VA permit costs $100, Arizona is cheaper.

    For me, I finally got an actual NC permit because its valid in SC, Georgia , and Florida, so when I drive to see the mother-in-law I can carry with it, the Arizona permit doesn't cover those states.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    $60 - 75 for a class and 90 for the permit will hardly purchase any handgun that I would ever want.

    Constitutional carry in NC? Naw, that's not going to happen.... Far to many liberals from the north have moved into the state.
    Oh no, no, no, no. Unless there was some crazy sell for a Glock, Springfield, Ruger, or certain other brands, for that, I don't mess with pistols under $350. Still though, it could purchase a mosin, maybe a 22lr from Mossberg or some other company. I own now only a Saiga 12 gauge and just bought myself a Springfield XD mod 2, but I still need to get a rifle and I am thinking Remington 700. Yeah, that's true. One could hope we eventually could have constitutional carry, but somehow for every gun a person carries concealed in NC a hipster might be able to find a chart showing that in turn kills a butterfly in South America. Those guns are just nothing but bad luck, especially the hidden ones. Which is another reason I want to carry concealed. I have a four and a half year old nephew that's over a lot and he LOVES guns, but to him none exist in my house at this moment, out of sight, out of mind, and if I carry open the jig is up.

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