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    Merging/Necro'ing threads is not this thread's topic. Please contact a Mod regarding such.

    This thread is about Trump establishing national reciprocity for carry permits.

    Such is in good keeping with the 2nd Amendment as most able-bodied adults are default members of the militia. It would be wise of Trump to establish a Federal voucher program to help all adults, save Prohibited Persons, to buy a modern assult rifle, store it securly, and train. Personal self defense being a biproduct of the 2nd Amendment, OC of said assult rifle, and/or personal sidearm, and/or melee weapon should be as protected a right as freedom of speech and religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reba View Post
    Yep. On my card it's called a CWP--Concealed Weapons Permit.
    Funny, whether the OP intentionally typed "CCW" or not, I knew right off what they meant.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    Merging/Necro'ing threads is not this thread's topic. Please contact a Mod regarding such.

    This thread is about Trump establishing national reciprocity for carry permits.
    Yet, I'm the one who was accused of trolling and making a "nonsensical" post.... funny how that works.

    Such is in good keeping with the 2nd Amendment as most able-bodied adults are default members of the militia. It would be wise of Trump to establish a Federal voucher program to help all adults, save Prohibited Persons, to buy a modern assult rifle, store it securly, and train. Personal self defense being a biproduct of the 2nd Amendment, OC of said assult rifle, and/or personal sidearm, and/or melee weapon should be as protected a right as freedom of speech and religion.
    Anyway, moving on, I sure hope so. But I dunno, there was such an uproar when the Obama clan legalized gay marriage, I wonder what's gonna happen with all these gun-hatin' states.


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    National concealed carry reciprocity will end up with the most restrictive States complaining that the most lenient States haven't passed their requirements. When that happens the most restrictive States will ask Daddy Fed to step in and be the arbitrator of what exactly are the conditions, requirements, and fees for a national carry permit.

    Do you really want Daddy Fed to have that power over carry permits? What Daddy Fed gives today Daddy Fed can take away during the next Presidential cycle.

    Not only that but not everyone travels out of State so why should everyone be subject to new regulations the regulations sure to come about to make all States carry permit requirements the same when those who do travel out of their State can pony up their own money and time to get non resident permits from the States they visit without causing any extra crap for those who don't travel out of State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    National concealed carry reciprocity will end up with the most restrictive States complaining that the most lenient States haven't passed their requirements. When that happens the most restrictive States will ask Daddy Fed to step in and be the arbitrator of what exactly are the conditions, requirements, and fees for a national carry permit.

    Do you really want Daddy Fed to have that power over carry permits? What Daddy Fed gives today Daddy Fed can take away during the next Presidential cycle.

    Not only that but not everyone travels out of State so why should everyone be subject to new regulations the regulations sure to come about to make all States carry permit requirements the same when those who do travel out of their State can pony up their own money and time to get non resident permits from the States they visit without causing any extra crap for those who don't travel out of State.
    Well, many states do not issue non-resident permits at all, nor honor other state's resident permits. New York and California, for example.

    That's the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    National concealed carry reciprocity will end up with the most restrictive States complaining that the most lenient States haven't passed their requirements. When that happens the most restrictive States will ask Daddy Fed to step in and be the arbitrator of what exactly are the conditions, requirements, and fees for a national carry permit.

    Do you really want Daddy Fed to have that power over carry permits? What Daddy Fed gives today Daddy Fed can take away during the next Presidential cycle.

    Not only that but not everyone travels out of State so why should everyone be subject to new regulations the regulations sure to come about to make all States carry permit requirements the same when those who do travel out of their State can pony up their own money and time to get non resident permits from the States they visit without causing any extra crap for those who don't travel out of State.
    Well, many states do not issue non-resident permits at all, nor honor other state's resident permits. New York and California, for example.

    That's the problem.
    Are you suggesting that the entire country, all of the folks who have carry permits, should be saddled with increased regulations, conditions, requirements, and fees so that those relatively few folks who visit the few States that do not issue non-resident permits will have the convenience of carrying into those States?

    Let me say it like it really is. National concealed carry reciprocity has nothing to do with the right to bear arms if you need a permit then it isn't a right but is a privilege granted by the government and has everything to do with a small portion of concealed carriers wanting the convenience of being able to travel from State to State without having to pay for, and qualify for, non resident carry permits without regard for how much increased regulation, restriction, and control Daddy Fed will impose on the entire concealed carry population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    Are you suggesting that the entire country, all of the folks who have carry permits, should be saddled with increased regulations, conditions, requirements, and fees so that those relatively few folks who visit the few States that do not issue non-resident permits will have the convenience of carrying into those States?
    No.

    I'm saying just have the federal permit.

    OR

    Have a Federal standard all states permits then follow, thus making any permit from any state valid in all other states.

    OR

    Pass national Constitutional Carry and no one needs any permit at all.

  9. #18
    We now (or soon) the Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branches of the US Government all in Republican majority. There is no reason that the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act can not be passed in the next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    The quote below is trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    Not this BS again. There are already two long running threads on this topic here: Nationwide Reciprocity and Bill Would Let Legal Gun Owners Carry Weapons Around Country. Please continue this idiocy there.
    How so? You have not contributed anything to this thread yet.

    The exact same idiocy that went on in the other threads has continued in this thread. Realistically, a national carry permit or nation-wide carry reciprocity won't happen. Not only are both unconstitutional, very pro-gun and very anti-gun states will oppose it.

    Imagine we already had a national carry permit or nation-wide carry reciprocity law. Now imagine Hillary Clinton won on Tuesday. By executive order, Hillary Clinton would attach may issue restrictions, carry firearm, magazine and ammunition restrictions, medical exams, and, most importantly, a secret federal no-carry list to such law. Now what?

    A national carry permit or nation-wide carry reciprocity law is big government gun control, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    We now (or soon) the Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branches of the US Government all in Republican majority. There is no reason that the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act can not be passed in the next year.
    Under what Constitutional authority?

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