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    I don't know anybody in Oklahoma anymore. Everybody went off to college then moved to Tulsa or Dallas.

    I dream of returning there someday to visit, swim in Lake Elmer Thomas, scuba dive near the reservoir at Lake Latonka, hike up Mount Scott, and ride a motorcycle in the prairie grass countryside racing ahead of a thunderstorm.

    It was paradise.

    I don't remember much if any crime in Oklahoma (other than McVeigh's bomb plot -- although he was a Zonie at the time).

    Maybe an occasional drunk Indian or two.

    It is Baptist Bible toting land.

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  3. In a neophyte in the gun works dip I have to make my decisions based on expert advice. Here are the opinions from 14 of them

    .45 ACP vs 9mm: 14 Experts Give Their Answers


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  4. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Apopkan2582 View Post
    In a neophyte in the gun works dip I have to make my decisions based on expert advice. Here are the opinions from 14 of them

    .45 ACP vs 9mm: 14 Experts Give Their Answers


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    "... that pits small caliber (9mm) versus large (.45 ACP) and extra capacity versus brute stopping power..."

    This pretty much says it all in the first paragraph. End of debate.

  5. Too bad most of the world's decision makers don't agree with you. There's a reason (many actually) they chose/choose 9mm.

    >Mic drop<

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  6. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Apopkan2582 View Post
    Too bad most of the world's decision makers don't agree with you. There's a reason (many actually) they chose/choose 9mm.

    >Mic drop<

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    All the cops and cop instructors I know carry 9x19's because:

    1 - they are required to
    2 - these are cheaper
    3 - these carry more ammo in the mag well
    4 - the JHP's in 9x19 expand to the same 1 inch diameter as the 45ACP in JHP's
    5 - if they can pump 14 rounds into a bubba like Darren Wilson did to Michael Brown then it does not matter what they are shooting even a mouse gun
    6 - the ammo is cheaper
    7 - the 9x19 is slightly more accurate than the 45ACP.
    For most, the Glock 9x19's are the only thing most Glock aficionados know.
    And for the Old School, it is the 45ACP.
    The US Army studied this issue however, back in 1911 (of the early 20th Century), and they rejected both the 9x19 and the 38.

  7. #2&6 mean I can afford to practice more.
    #3 I can fit 7+1 in my pocket (check the title of this post for relevance here). When I'm not trying to pocket carry, I have 18+1 jhp in my P228 9mm.
    #4 Worthless 9mm expands to the same size as 45 acp? What about penetration?
    #7 I hear accurate shots are a good thing. Don't you agree that sorry placement is very important?

    Okay, I know it doesn't have the knockdown power of a 45 but the trade off is well worth it TO ME and maybe a couple others.
    BTW I prefer the recoil of the 9 better - maybe that's because I don't have experience and training like you. On that note, what's best for you is not best for all.

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  8. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Apopkan2582 View Post
    #2&6 mean I can afford to practice more.
    #3 I can fit 7+1 in my pocket (check the title of this post for relevance here). When I'm not trying to pocket carry, I have 18+1 jhp in my P228 9mm.
    #4 Worthless 9mm expands to the same size as 45 acp? What about penetration?
    #7 I hear accurate shots are a good thing. Don't you agree that sorry placement is very important?

    Okay, I know it doesn't have the knockdown power of a 45 but the trade off is well worth it TO ME and maybe a couple others.
    BTW I prefer the recoil of the 9 better - maybe that's because I don't have experience and training like you. On that note, what's best for you is not best for all.

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    "... I know it doesn't have the knockdown power of a 45 ..." is my favorite part.

    Absolutely positively gawddam right.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    Against my 45ACP your mouse gun(s) are all totally worthless, correct, yes.
    Only if you can hit your target under stress...

  10. You're Favorite Pocket Gun

    I thought we were talking about pocket guns? In my pocket is either a lc9 or sr9c. If I want to carry something larger it's my AR pistol in my briefcase or ukulele case. 300 AAC Blackout trumps 45ACP


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  11. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by mikestone967 View Post
    Only if you can hit your target under stress...
    I can.

    We practice stressed shooting in our tactical pistol courses.

    Everyone needs to practice this too.

    Nobody is born with these skills, although some people are cooler under fire than others are.

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