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    Delaware ag refuses all non-resident permits

    From DE AG’s Website:

    "As of September 23, 2017 Delaware will no longer honor Non-Resident Concealed Carry Permits issued by any jurisdiction."
    Typical Anti-Gun Left Wing Democrat.

    This seems to be a growing trend.
    Regards!

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    They won't be able to do that for much longer. Here's why.
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    Went to/graduated HS there. Screw them!

  5. had to read new law a few times to understand it. It turns out the way I see it is, if you are from Va and have non resident from Utah you cant carry in Del if you are from Utah and have a CCW from there you can. Any one see it differently

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    Even if passed, it will never go into effect. The governors and AG of many states will have it tied up in the courts, and/or add all sorts of restrictions to basically make it useless, such as guns must be unloaded, Level III retention holsters, and any other crap they can think up.
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    UPDATE:

    https://blog.princelaw.com/2017/02/1...carry-changes/

    So many residents and NRA and DSSA members called the AG's office and raised hell, they backpedaled.

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    Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 (H.R. 38) Will Go Into Effect and Here's Why

    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    Even if passed, it will never go into effect. The governors and AG of many states will have it tied up in the courts, and/or add all sorts of restrictions to basically make it useless, such as guns must be unloaded, Level III retention holsters, and any other crap they can think up.
    Actually H.R. 38 will go into effect, and will not get tied up in the courts, here's why:

    Here's the relevant quote from the bill about who would be eligible to carry and how the permits issued by states to nonresidents are addressed by H.R. 38:

    and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, in any State that—

    “(1) has a statute under which residents of the State may apply for a license or permit to carry a concealed firearm; or

    “(2) does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes.


    Note that it said pursuant to the law of a State* - not pursuant to law of "the" State. Because it was written in such a way ("a State,") that means that it applies to anyone who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of any State. Arguably the proposed law could be clarified and improved by replacing "a" with "any," but the bill's meaning is clear.

    Note also the "or" provision: "or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides." This includes people that already have a concealed carry permit from the state they reside it, but because the word "or" is used, it doesn't propose to require that you have to get the concealed carry permit from the state where you reside. You could get it from any state that will issue it to you and then it would be honored.

    This will be true under H.R. 38 for anyone who meets the following conditions:

    (you live in a state that) has a statute under which residents of the State may apply for a license or permit to carry a concealed firearm (even in California, this condition is met, so technically a California resident would be able to apply for a VA nonresident CCW... and so on)

    and

    (the state) does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes.

    I don't know of any state that prohibits the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes, because they can't. They can put up bureaucratic obstacles but they can't prohibit it. Not even in D.C. have they been allowed to prohibit concealed carry - the courts have made sure of that.

    Furthermore, under the Supremacy Clause, Congress is allowed to make sure that unconstitutional law by states can be preempted or unconstitutional law can be repealed under that use of that Clause as well.

    H.R. 38 will go into effect and be effective and the states will not be able to stop it. And that's a good thing.
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    https://blog.princelaw.com/2017/02/1...carry-changes/

    Delaware Backpedals on Concealed Carry*Changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by freethink View Post
    I don't know of any state that prohibits the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes, because they can't. They can put up bureaucratic obstacles but they can't prohibit it. Not even in D.C. have they been allowed to prohibit concealed carry - the courts have made sure of that.

    .
    IL and DC did until long drawn out court battles finally overturned them. Check out HI, and the fact that virtually NO ONE has a CC permit.

    Yep, NY, MD, HI, NJ, DE, CA, MA and probably a few more are going to take it to the courts
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    UPDATE:

    https://blog.princelaw.com/2017/02/1...carry-changes/

    So many residents and NRA and DSSA members called the AG's office and raised hell, they backpedaled.
    Same thing happened in VA last year, AG's just throwing crap out to see if it will stick to the wall.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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