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  1. Quote Originally Posted by macneilj View Post
    I am looking for a concealed carry hand gun and I am looking at one of three hand guns.
    They are the

    • Sig Pro 2022 Nitron 9mm,
    • CZ 75D Compact 9mm
    • Beretta 92 Compact 9mm.


    Need some input. Which would you buy and why?
    Personally, I would go with the Beretta...mainly because of their longevity in making quality firearms, plus, I just like Berettas. I would suggest however, to either order one in the "G" configuration (decocker only), or make it a decocker yourself, provided you can't find one to order.
    I've never done one on a 92 but have on a PX4 & it took about 15 minutes...& I'm on the slower, tedious, double check myself, end of the spectrum. I imagine it's basically the same procedure.
    Good luck on your choice. It's tough with so many choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy55 View Post
    Personally, I would go with the Beretta...mainly because of their longevity in making quality firearms, plus, I just like Berettas. I would suggest however, to either order one in the "G" configuration (decocker only), or make it a decocker yourself, provided you can't find one to order.
    I've never done one on a 92 but have on a PX4 & it took about 15 minutes...& I'm on the slower, tedious, double check myself, end of the spectrum. I imagine it's basically the same procedure.
    Good luck on your choice. It's tough with so many choices.

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    I like Berettas too. I've never shot the older 92 but I love the crap outta my Storm.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    I like Berettas too. I've never shot the older 92 but I love the crap outta my Storm.
    Same here. I want to get either a 92 (F or FS) or the M91A3, although, I'm not crazy about the 1911 styling of it...but it comes with backstraps that give a more classic grip.
    My first love is my PX4 Compact though. Compact but still full grip. I kept the "ears" when I did the conversion, mainly because I didn't see a need to spend $45 on the low profile kit. I use Kydex holsters so I can train to rack the slide using the safety/decocker ear on a reload...in case my support hand is incompacitated. Can't do that if they're low profile & using the slide release, is the only time I've had an FTF. Of course, that would be an extreme situation, which I'm more than willing to avoid...but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy55 View Post
    Same here. I want to get either a 92 (F or FS) or the M91A3, although, I'm not crazy about the 1911 styling of it...but it comes with backstraps that give a more classic grip.
    My first love is my PX4 Compact though. Compact but still full grip. I kept the "ears" when I did the conversion, mainly because I didn't see a need to spend $45 on the low profile kit. I use Kydex holsters so I can train to rack the slide using the safety/decocker ear on a reload...in case my support hand is incompacitated. Can't do that if they're low profile & using the slide release, is the only time I've had an FTF. Of course, that would be an extreme situation, which I'm more than willing to avoid...but you never know.

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    Full size 40 Storm here. Love it to death. Came close to buying a sub-compact Storm in either 9mm or a 40 but since I was in the market for a single stack sub compact for easier and more comfortable conceal carry I decided against it and bought my next love, my little LC9S Ruger. I still may look into that sub-compact Storm tho just because I liked it so much and the way it fit my hand.

    That new APX is pretty sexy too. Got to hold one of those over vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy55 View Post
    Same here. I want to get either a 92 (F or FS) or the M91A3, although, I'm not crazy about the 1911 styling of it...but it comes with backstraps that give a more classic grip.
    My first love is my PX4 Compact though. Compact but still full grip. I kept the "ears" when I did the conversion, mainly because I didn't see a need to spend $45 on the low profile kit. I use Kydex holsters so I can train to rack the slide using the safety/decocker ear on a reload...in case my support hand is incompacitated. Can't do that if they're low profile & using the slide release, is the only time I've had an FTF. Of course, that would be an extreme situation, which I'm more than willing to avoid...but you never know.
    I have never heard of using the safety/decocker ear to rack the slide one handed! Did anyone teach you this method?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    I have never heard of using the safety/decocker ear to rack the slide one handed! Did anyone teach you this method?
    Maybe he means the rear sight perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    Maybe he means the rear sight perhaps?
    Well, did you try it with yours? Looking at pictures of the PX4 Compact, the rear sight seems quite slanted, making that rather difficult if not impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    Well, did you try it with yours? Looking at pictures of the PX4 Compact, the rear sight seems quite slanted, making that rather difficult if not impossible.
    No, I don't think I ever tried it after watching that video you posted on it long time ago.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    I have never heard of using the safety/decocker ear to rack the slide one handed! Did anyone teach you this method?
    No. I just kind of stumbled on it. As I mentioned, I left the batwings on it instead of getting the low profile. I was thinking about grinding some off because the body side one kept catching on the sweat guard of my AG holster when reholstering, so, I thought...hmmm, I wonder if I can rack it on the holster (Kydex) & I tried it & suceeded...all unloaded, of course. Didn't take much to get the hang of it...leaning the barrel out a little to get a better "grip" on the Kydex, holding the grip away just a little so as not to scrape my thumb knuckle, etc., etc.,...but it is a workable, although extreme, training method.
    I had seen vids of people racking with their sights but as pointed out, they are a bit slanted. The "ears" are the bane of Storm owners because of how they stick out, so I figured I would make use of them. It will take a ton of practice to make it something I would make a practice though. Always thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy55 View Post
    No. I just kind of stumbled on it. As I mentioned, I left the batwings on it instead of getting the low profile. I was thinking about grinding some off because the body side one kept catching on the sweat guard of my AG holster when reholstering, so, I thought...hmmm, I wonder if I can rack it on the holster (Kydex) & I tried it & suceeded...all unloaded, of course. Didn't take much to get the hang of it...leaning the barrel out a little to get a better "grip" on the Kydex, holding the grip away just a little so as not to scrape my thumb knuckle, etc., etc.,...but it is a workable, although extreme, training method.
    I had seen vids of people racking with their sights but as pointed out, they are a bit slanted. The "ears" are the bane of Storm owners because of how they stick out, so I figured I would make use of them. It will take a ton of practice to make it something I would make a practice though. Always thinking.

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    I hope this is a Type G (decocker and no manual safety) and not Type F (decocker and manual safety)!

    You have to point the barrel away from your legs anyway to maintain the rules of firearm safety. There is a method where you hold the gun one-handed with your thumb on the back of the grip (not the slide!). It's a bit awkward and usually only used for left-handed type 3 malfunction clearance on a handgun that has the slide stop on the right side. I still would not advise to rack the slide one-handed using the decocker ear, though. Also, this isn't going to work left-handed as the ejection port will be facing your body.

    I am not an instructor and, by your own admission, you have not had the training. I highly advise you to take a training class and work with an instructor on this. The instructor will observe what you are doing and check if it is done safely.

    With a good rear sight that has a straight edge, you can rack that slide at almost anything, such as on the belt through a shirt (no need to lift up the shirt or hit the belt buckle).


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