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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by tea51 View Post
    I work at a VA hospital where it has always been policy that no one is to bring firearms onto hospital property unless they are LEO's, then they have to store their weapons unless they are working a case. Firearms are not even allowed to be kept inside one's vehicles. Early last year there was an ongoing conflict at the hospital between two male employees over one female employee. This situation became worse over time until one night things turned deadly. Each male employee got into their cars, one had the female with him, and left VA property when their shift ended at midnight. They made it a few blocks before a running gunfight ensued from car to car as they were going down the street. One person was hit and crashed his car. The other employee then stopped and the gunfight continued. It ended up with one guy being shot to death, the woman hiding behind some bushes beside the road, scared but unhurt, and the other male unhurt. The trial is still pending. The VA sent out MEMO's after this incident as a reminder about the firearms directives. Our VA hospital is smack in the middle of one of the more nasty parts of town. There is a huge state funded housing complex directly across the street from the hospital. To my personal knowledge the hospital has been shot at and hit 3 times in the past. One bullet went through the window of a patients room and impacted into the wall near the patient but no one was hurt. Another more recent shooting a bullet went through the window in the room where a patient was undergoing a sleep study test. Again no one was hurt, neither the patient or the tech doing the test. On each New Years night the main gate to the VA is closed off and the employee's getting off work at midnight are directeded out the back gate due to all the gunfire coming from the housing project. For me to get home from the hospital I have to pass through this ghetto area. I have never been personally shot at while leaving workt but each night when I leave the hospital grounds I feel like I'm in someone's crosshairs. My having a firearm on hospital property I would be comitting a Federal Crime and if caught would lose my job and go to jail.

    Catch 22
    That is one crazy place to be working at! If you don't have someone trying to shoot directly at you, there is always a chance you can get nailed by a ricochet. The stupid part is, if you try to complain to the employer, like saying something needs to be done so we are protected, say install bullet proof windows, they can always turn around and say, go find a job elsewhere.

    So basically it comes down to, bad guys can have guns, because if they canít, no one is doing anything to stop them there, but the good citizens have no right to protect themselves at a place of work that is so unsafe!
    "You must prove you feared for your life. Pee in your pants."
    -Someone on this site!

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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by svrivera View Post
    I live in jersey...so...
    How does your comment help anyone? If you're going to say that, then maybe go into detail about what you have to deal with instead of just being rude.
    "You must prove you feared for your life. Pee in your pants."
    -Someone on this site!

  4. #63
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    Company says no, to carry

    I worked for a company, driving a local truck, oh what the hell--UPS-- that had a strick no guns on property rule. I also worked for a Sam's Club, as a door greeter. Always carried, always will.
    I have my CCW.
    Did I care what their rules were? Not on your life!
    They are not there to keep you safe and I take full responcibility for my actions.
    I'm still herer, not because of them.
    MICHAEL

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by tea51 View Post
    What does "I live in Jersey" have to do with my post - if anything. Just curious.
    that means that Im not a rock-star, politician, million air..so I cant carry. I love read about the many places that allow it.. wish I could.

  6. #65
    My company does not allow firearms by policy as well as by posted sign at the entrance to the "compound," I mean complex. Therefore I do not carry inside the buildings. I do however keep my weapon in the truck. I along with nearly three fourths of the employees keep a firearm in the vehicle.
    From my cold dead fingers will you take my freedom. And even then you will have to pry it out with a crowbar.

  7. #66
    -directed at original post-
    I would evaluate the possible threat level, if the circumstances of where you work (easy target?), the area you work (bad/good part of town, crime rate of area), the time you work (night as you stated, higher probability of crimes), and your desire to protect yourself (and loved ones). If any of these outway the consequences of getting caught with a firearm/weapon posibility of being fired) then I would be descretely carry regardless.

    Now, I may be wrong but I dont think that ANY company policy trumps our Constitution... So even if your employer were to find you with a weapon, and try and have you fired, I think a good lawyer should be able to turn the case around as an infringement of your 2nd Admendment rights.

    As for my personal situation, Our company policy also is a no carry, and I value my employment, also, I live in a low crime rate area, and although the people I work with all have different personalities, I do not consider any of them to be a threat, at this time. So, I do not feel the need to constantly carry. So I leave my weapon descretly locked up in my vehicle.

  8. #67
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    gun in car?

    Why do you people, insist on leaving you gun, in the car?
    The car, may be stolen, at any time.
    Now, not only did you lose your gun and car, you armed a thief.
    In your car, you keep you info, like you insurance card, you registration, a bill or two.
    They have your address on them.
    Now, the thief, knows, you have guns and knowes where you live.
    AND, there maybe more guns in the house, which leaves you open for another hit.
    Good thinking.
    MICHAEL

  9. #68
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    Cool Hey, Chudak! Wassa matta you?

    Quote Originally Posted by chudak25 View Post
    How does your comment help anyone? If you're going to say that, then maybe go into detail about what you have to deal with instead of just being rude.
    First of all, I really don't see what you find rude. Second, if you are as unaware of the horrible, horrible thieves of our second amendment rights (Jersey, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc.) then I recommend reading a newspaper on occasion.
    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

  10. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomboy007 View Post
    First of all, I really don't see what you find rude. Second, if you are as unaware of the horrible, horrible thieves of our second amendment rights (Jersey, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc.) then I recommend reading a newspaper on occasion.
    lol That was my whole point, instead of just saying I live in Jersey, have something afterwards. Not everyone knows what the poster is talking about for sure or what he meant by it. It was like saying I have it worse than you, but not explaining how. For all I know it could have been that they have drive by shootings on a daily basis on their street (because the other person was talking about bullets hitting her work place) or that they don't even have an option to be able to carry at all. This way whoever is reading does not have to guess what he was trying to say and interpret it wrong. That is why I said it was rude, at least that's how I interpreted it, because the other one was talking about how crappy her workplace is and then you just get I live in Jersey, SO! Sorry, I probably should just have asked for him to explain what he meant by it first. I am aware of how some of those states treat the second amendment, which is why I choose to live in the great state of Idaho, where for now the second amendment still means something. Although we did get a bunch of Californians in the last few years that would like to see Idaho become another California in regards to the gun laws anyway!
    "You must prove you feared for your life. Pee in your pants."
    -Someone on this site!

  11. #70

    Working for the Federal Gov't

    Quote Originally Posted by svrivera View Post
    that means that Im not a rock-star, politician, million air..so I cant carry. I love read about the many places that allow it.. wish I could.
    I also thought at first your comment to be rude but didn't want to get into a pissing match with someone I didn't know and wasn't sure what you really meant by your comment to my post so I just left things alone. Am glad to hear that's not the case. I'm here on this Forum just like everyone else. Where I live is probably no worse than most towns and cities and better than others. I just find it incomprehensable that someone would take pot shots at a hospital, and especially a VA hospital. It's no news what the government's policy concerning firearms on their property is. I know of several employee's who do keep handguns in their vehicles while at work but I have 22 years working for the VA hospital system and do not want to give that up if caught with a weapon and lose my retirement, do jail time, etc.

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