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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by spydrz View Post
    The Feds don't have the powers granted to them in the Constitution to issue such a thing, and to cover all states that's the only way to do it...
    The Feds have already done this.

    Your national right to carry permit is attached below.


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  3. Quote Originally Posted by eagleks View Post
    I'm personally against a National CC license, that means it would be run by the Fedl Govt, and we know how well they do with things. They can't even hardly get passports out. Also, that would amount to a federal registration of gun owners of sorts, and they could modify, amend, and change the rules at any time they wanted...

    Do we want Eric Holder (the anti of anti's ) in charge of that ?
    DISagree strongly.
    We are looking for nothing more than the modifications in MD that their HB52 institutes; it states simply that the adjacents states, having issued a concealed carry permit (which we all agree should not be required in any event under the constitution but that's another discussion), that permit is recognized by MD.

    A ONE LINER, pure and simple. No regulations. No registrations. No nothing. Just reciprocity. And by the way, that bill is hopefully heading to the floor of the House of Delegates rather than into committee. Every Republican has signed onto the petition to have that done and a few Democrats as well, which is a great sign and a huge change in their state 'policy' on reciprocity as you know.

    HB52 (which I took the time to write to every single delegate about) will give reciprocity to holders of CCW permits in VA, PA and DEL. That is all. But it is a step in the right direction.

    A 'national' reciprocity bill, similar to HB52's intent, would be ideal. Check out the MD websites.

    As far as passports are concerned, I applied for mine while on a short vacation at a random post office in NY state and it was in my mailbox when I got home.

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    It the Feds had jurisdiction over carry permits, we could all lose them by one single bill. The administration is already working hard to dismantle our freedoms, so this would never be a good idea. IMHO of course...
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    to all,

    i STRONGLY suspect that when the next USSC decision on guns "comes down', the decision will essentially order ALL the jurisdictions to accept ANY CCW issued anywhere in the nation, under the 14th Amendment.

    even the "antis" are accepting the fact that the USSC is going to apply the "full faith & credit provisions" of the Constitution & the 14th to everyone.- they aren't (of course) happy about it, but as essentially all the law professors say that it will happen, it's likely a "done deal" within 3-6 months.

    just my opinion.

    yours, TN46

  6. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by rockwerks View Post
    Lack of knowledge of laws is no excuse. If you cant keep up with a few laws you probably should not be carrying in the first place. Currently states have many different requirements for carry and some states have nearly banned it.
    Well, that's B.S. of the first order!! Maybe you are a walking encyclopedia, but most of us mere mortals aren't!
    There is NO way a person can know all of the laws in all of the states. They are too conflicting with each other.
    And I guarantee YOU don't know them all either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleks View Post
    I'm personally against a National CC license, that means it would be run by the Fedl Govt, and we know how well they do with things. They can't even hardly get passports out. Also, that would amount to a federal registration of gun owners of sorts, and they could modify, amend, and change the rules at any time they wanted...

    Do we want Eric Holder (the anti of anti's ) in charge of that ?
    I agree with you 100%.

    Quite simply..and it is simple...the States just have to be sued enough to make reciprocity a fact of life. If someone is traveling from Alabama to California, and gets in a spot of trouble for carrying, they just sue under Second Amendment rights, and have the Supreme Court UPHOLD the CONSTITUTION for a change! We don't need a discussion of ANOTHER law to be passed, when we ALREADY have a law on the books, for crying out loud. It's called the Second Amendment!

    The LAST thing you want these clowns in power now doing is having ANYTHING to do with gun laws! I don't want the FED GOV'T involved in much of anything in my life that isn't a required power of theirs under the Constitution. Their job is to protect out nation. My job is to protect my family! I don't need, nor want, their help.

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    I am pleased that I have a license to carry my weapon. I would like to see a law that will let me carry it in states other than GA. or in states that accept the GA license. I honestly believe that this will take time. It is my belief that if you and I support groups like that of the NRA it will happen. However, once they take the right to carry away from me and from others who have a permit to carry it makes it very wrong! That is when we need to stand together and fight for our right to carry!

  9. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by FN1910 View Post
    Now you want a National CCW permit issued and controled by the Federal Government. As an exercise take all the states and put them in order from most difficult to get a CCW right now to easiest. The Feds are not going to go to the Vermont or Alaska style but rather somewhere toward the majority. Remember this is going to have to pass the House and Senate.

    The Senate has 435 members so we will have to get 218 to approve it probably according to what their state laws are. This meas that the following states are going to decide what the CCW permit will require and how it will be restricted.
    # of Reps Running Total
    52 California 52
    31 New York 83
    30 Texas 113
    23 Florida 136
    21 Pennsylvania 157
    20 Illinois 177
    19 Ohio 196
    16 Michigan 212
    13 New Jersey 225


    So check out the requirements for these states to see what your CCW will be like. :)

    Dont look all that bad to me.MI FL Tx Oh.Not sure about Jersey, but from what I have heard it getting better there too. And if things keep going the way they are in this country, the republicans will do what ever the people want in 2012 when they take over.Might just be our best chance for one.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by GOV5 View Post
    Well, that's B.S. of the first order!! Maybe you are a walking encyclopedia, but most of us mere mortals aren't!
    There is NO way a person can know all of the laws in all of the states. They are too conflicting with each other.
    And I guarantee YOU don't know them all either!
    I haven't even bothered to read where this tangent of the hijacked thread took off from........

    I strongly disagree with your suggestion that one cannot know the laws of all the states because, in a nutshell my compatriate, you MUST MUST MUST know the laws of each and every state that you are travelling through if you are going to want to carry concealed in that state. Period. End of story.

    Ever hear the saying "Ignorance of the law is no excuse?". Well, I can tell you it is right on the spot.

    If you are travelling, do NOT bother buying a book of state laws. That book is pure bullcrap.

    You need up to the second state information and that means that you need to travel, believe it or not, with a laptop! We do a lot of travelling and we take our laptop and a data stick just in case the hotel doesn't have data available.

    YOU MUST know the laws and the CURRENT laws of every state you will drive through, even for a moment, and you MUST obey them. THAT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND!

    To suggest that one does not need to keep abreast of each state's laws is putting the members of this forum at risk of arrest and incarceration. Carrying a concealed weapon in most every state is a felony and there will be no sense of humour about it I can assure you. If you are not able to carry in a given state you need a lockbox in your trunk and you need to know how to transport your weapon through that state.

    If able to carry concealed in a given state you need to know the laws of that state as to where you may or may not carry and the requirements (for example, there are still some states that require a maximum of ten round magazines for handguns).

    Yes, I am afraid that you DO need to know the laws of each and every state that you intend to travel through and if you play with fire you can expect to get your fingers burned, your gun(s) and your CCW permit confiscated, spend a bunch of money on lawyers and bail and in the end either pay a hefty fine or spend some time stamping automobile license plates.

    Please do not presume to give advice on this forum if you have no clue as to what you are saying! You do both yourself and the members of this forum a grave disservice by doing so and put them in harm's way.

    Even if a national reciprocity law takes effect it is very likely that such things as prohibited carry places will remain in effect in each individual state.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Woody1960 View Post
    Dont look all that bad to me.MI FL Tx Oh.Not sure about Jersey, but from what I have heard it getting better there. And if things keep going the way they are in this country, the republicans will do what ever the people want in 2012 when they take over.Might just be our best chance for one.
    That running total is a bunch of malarky. We missed the last vote by only 2 and we required a 2/3 majority I believe in order for the national reciprocity bill to pass.

    You can take PA off the list as well as they already recognize pretty much everyone's permits.

    Getting real serious here; we are a hair's breadth away from this national reciprocity bill, which will likely be an amendment to some pork belly bill and a one liner.

    Even if on its own it will be short and sweet. My prediction is that we will see one within the next 5 years.

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