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  1. #11
    As far as the government knowing if you have any firearms, unless you buy private treaty from an individual the government knows. Thats why you fill out paperwork for background checks. Get the permit

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    With a permit you have your ready weapon at hand. A threat exposes itself and you make the immediate determination if that threat is imminent and act accordingly.

    With an unloaded gun in the backseat a threat exposes itself and if it is immenent by the time you reach for the gun to load it you are dead. If the threat is not immenent (no one is pointing a gun at your head) what will be you justification in getting and loading the gun?

    You pull up outside you house and it looks like it is being burglarized? ... can you get and load you gun and go check? ... you should just call the police and let them investigate. If you family is inside, you may be justified but be CERTAIN you are right if you shoot because you are now the "gentlemen who got an unloaded gun from his car, loaded it and went looking for the perpitrators".

    Me... I say either get the permit or leave the gun at home.

  4. #13
    Here in GA you don't have to own a gun to have a firearms license and having a license doesn't indicate whether your a gun owner but when you purchase a gun you have to pass through the FBI , so at that point is when you will classified as a gun owner.

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    I would say that getting the license is the way to go, also. I've had one for a year and a half and enjoy the security that I'm able to defend myself and my family in the house or out.

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    You would have a difficult time claiming self defense if you had to get out of the car to get the pistol from under the back seat and load it before shooting the bad guy - if you were given time that is. The Prosecutor would argue that it was premeditated murder because in less time than it took to get the gun ready, you could have driven quickly away to safety. A gun not on your person ready at hand, is called a paperwieght.

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by 2beararms View Post
    With a permit you have your ready weapon at hand. A threat exposes itself and you make the immediate determination if that threat is imminent and act accordingly.

    With an unloaded gun in the backseat a threat exposes itself and if it is immenent by the time you reach for the gun to load it you are dead. If the threat is not immenent (no one is pointing a gun at your head) what will be you justification in getting and loading the gun?

    You pull up outside you house and it looks like it is being burglarized? ... can you get and load you gun and go check? ... you should just call the police and let them investigate. If you family is inside, you may be justified but be CERTAIN you are right if you shoot because you are now the "gentlemen who got an unloaded gun from his car, loaded it and went looking for the perpitrators".

    Me... I say either get the permit or leave the gun at home.
    Agreed.

    If you have the time to reach for your gun, load it, cycle it, point and shoot, your life was most likely not in imminent danger.

    The only good having it with you unloaded would be to transport it from legal point "A" to legal point "B" (home to work, etc).
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.....

    speaks for itself!!

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    Hey THays and y'all: Everyone made valid points. I took the CWWP class and passed with a 100 on the shooting and a 96 on the written so I just have to wait for the CWWP. I do not intend to CC since the scenarios that I can foresee for such a need are not allowed in SC, although someone can always argue "what if". ie: 1)Evening out with wife at nice restaurant and need to walk to car at night (in SC you cannot carry into restaurant that serves alcohol 2) Evening meeting at church and need to walk to car in a block away parking lot (in SC you cannot carry into a church w/o pastor approval, which is highly unlikely for a casual meeting of friends). I might consider carrying in and around the house but I mainly took the course just because I could and I learned a lot about gun handling, gun concealment, the CC laws in SC etc. Course was taught by a very experience deputy sheriff and was worth every penny. Bottom line--the more you know, the better off you will be--if it is not a terrible expense for you take the course--you will be that much more prepared as an owner of a gun.

  10. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveD View Post
    As far as the government knowing if you have any firearms, unless you buy private treaty from an individual the government knows. Thats why you fill out paperwork for background checks. Get the permit
    Not necesssarily, unless you live in Maryland, where the Highway Patrol was keeping files illegally (and probably still is). In Florida, when you fill out a form to buy a gun, it goes to the state, not the feds, and is destroyed after a short time period. It is meant more to protect the seller than the buyer. It is NOT kept on file. If you apply for a concealed permit, that goes into the records more or less permanently (as long as you keep renewing it). but there is no reference to guns in that record...you can have a permit and never own a gun.
    -= Piece Corps =-

  11. #20
    Having an unloaded gun under the back seat is kind of like having a car in the garage with no gas in it. Nether one is of much use when you need it.
    If you get to thinkin you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around

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