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  1. #11
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    Ignore it. Simple. Do not disclose you are carrying because then they can call in a false report of you brandishing you can kiss your CCW(s) goodbye in that case if the charges stick. There's also the issue of mutual combat which becomes murder in Nevada if one of the participants dies. We had a case happen like that here recently at casino in the northwest area of town.

    I'm much more even tempered carrying since I know that there's a high probability if things were to get out of hand I would end up having to use it. Part of the zen associated with legal and responsible CCW is avoiding conflict. It's a similar zen to what is taught in many martial arts by respectable instructors and dojos.
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    Its one thing to tell somebody to have some respect and dignity towards himself/others. Its another to haul off and start swinging. When the police break it up and then find your weapon, you are gonna be in a whole HEAP of cow dung.

    Tell the person to grow up, and continue your day. If they are persistent, tell them to leave you alone. If they don't leave you alone, tell them to stay WAY BACK and that you are now taking them as a threat to your and your wife's personal safety. Call law enforcement if the situation keeps escalating, this usually will make people in public leave you alone. After that, you know what to do I would hope. :)

    You have to remember in the grandstand of things, you are the bigger man. You just avoided having to beat someone's ass, or worse, kill them. This should make you feel more comfortable knowing that YOU are the one in control of the situation, and the other person is just a no-life instigator who has nothing better to do.
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  4. #13
    Good advice by all. You know, I'm a black belt and have been schooled heartily in avoiding violence and fights. And I do. (One thing you learn fast in martial arts training is there is always someone who can kick your ass.) And I have mellowed even more since I've started carrying 24/7. However, as an unarmed martial artist, I guess I have felt that I could "put someone down" without necessarily killing him; thus, I would be apt to react to an insult to my wife (as an example). I'm trained to draw my weapon for only one reason however: to stop the threat. Given that I'm trained to plant 2 in center mass, this obviously means my antagonist has a greater chance of dying. So, ok, carrying a gun is not quite the same as being a black belt. So, I need to adjust my emotional response accordingly.

    My wife's response was exactly what you all have counseled. So it's a "pride" thing on my part.

    Here's a question: How many of you are from south of the Mason-Dixon line? I am (tho I have lived in the Northland now for over 20 years) and I think there's a culturally-induced emotional response at play here. Where I grew up, if someone insults your wife, you stand up, no question. False honor? Maybe. My wife is from the North and as I said, her response has always been: "why would you fight over something as silly as that?" My brothers and friends back home would say: "Kick his ass!".

  5. #14
    Prevent it.

    You see, if the insulting party doesn’t know you, they don’t know if you’re sane and normal or a complete loon. Carry openly. Nobody will bother you because nobody knows for sure if you’re:
    A cop
    A violent nutjob
    An honest citizen who avoids conflict
    All of the above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainsail View Post
    Prevent it.

    You see, if the insulting party doesn’t know you, they don’t know if you’re sane and normal or a complete loon. Carry openly. Nobody will bother you because nobody knows for sure if you’re:
    A cop
    A violent nutjob
    An honest citizen who avoids conflict
    All of the above
    In some states that will work and in others that will not. MA (my home base) is one of those places that open carry is not illegal but has been described by most of the LEO in the state that I know as "a very dangerous and foolish thing to do for various reasons". I agree... If someone notices you with the open carry firearm and they are in the market for a loaded gun for let’s say their next "armed robbery" or "car jackin stunt" and they manage to get the jump on you, well you could fit the bill. Wake up in the hospital with a head full of staples and some degree of short term memory loss. The other reason is the fear and complete panic that most non gun owning folks will exhibit when they encounter a person not in uniform (either Military or LEO) with a gun on their side... Most (not all) folks here in the north-east are afraid of gun toting folks.. Cops will get the call and the description to the 911 operator could be as follows: “Oh My God there is some guy here with a gun”. “Where is he”? “He’s walking by the bank, I think he’s planning to rob the bank”… Oh Yeah, I’m really fond of “get on the ground now!!” and 2 or more guns being pointed at me…Anyway kinda rambled there, but keeping cool and laughing at the situation with some degree of self awareness that you could just shoot the guy and make it all better… That would be a tough sell to the jury I must say. “Guilty? How so? “He called my wife a fat whore”, I had to kill him”…
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    We've talked about confrontations on other threads. Thought I might start a new one to gen up new interest.

    Here's the deal: You're carrying and someone insults your wife publicly. To me, that calls for a confrontation on your part. But, now you're carrying. I don't think we can go scuffling around with somebody since that's a good way to lose control of your weapon. Walk away? That would be tough. Hand the gun to your wife? Mine has a carry permit but still...Go deposit your weapon in your vehicle, come back, and THEN smack somebody? Nahhh...If I'm gonna fight, I intend to hit first, hard, and fast; anything else sets you up to lose. So, I don't know...what do we do? I can walk away from some crap, but there are plenty of situations that I don't think I could (insulting my wife in front of me is one of them). I'm interested in hearing from the "brotherhood"...What would you do?

    I'd walk away. I suppose if you had a dire need to get the guy back, the best way would be to wait a bit and nail him when he least expects it. A month or two down the line and I'm sure the dirt bag would have pissed of another guy or two.

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    I like your style, Glock Fan.

  9. #18
    OK, when I'm carrying (which is pretty much all the time), I'm walking away. Agreed.

    But, assuming you're unarmed, you are telling me you wouldn't stand up if someone seriously insulted your wife in front of you, in public? You're better men than I am, cause I'm definitely gonna have something to say. I know, logically, it seems stupid (end up embarassed, hurt, in jail, dead I suppose), but I picture someone in a restaurant bearing down on my wife verbally, and I can't see me just walking away. Too much foolish pride, I guess. And yeah, you could lose your right to carry (if you're convicted of assault), but as Uncle Teddy Nugent has said: "I got a God-given right to protect myself and my loved ones, and I don't need no stinkin' carry permit to do that".

    Hey, Dudeorific, I'm born and raised in Baltimore County, BTW. Left 30 years ago to live out west where the deer and antelope play, and have never regretted it (strong hunting and gun culture here, along with VERY friendly people).

  10. #19
    If people are so friendly there, why all the hostility towards the few stray bad apples?
    Gun control: Forcing a 95lb woman to fist fight a 300lb rapist

  11. #20
    Don't read too much into this...it has never happened and I doubt it will. I was just suggesting possible scenarios that I would have trouble walking away from. Where I live, the people ARE friendly, I run a business in a small city and know tons of folks, I don't frequent questionable locales (I don't think we even have any), and at 6ft 2in, 280 lbs (shaved head, goatee, tats), I don't look like someone whose wife you'd tend to insult. Again, no hostility on my part, just speculating.

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