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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin mosley View Post
    I'd like to add fuel to the fire here with a new WHAT-IF:

    Say it's dark, vision is limited. A sketchy looking character charges DIRECTLY at you, full throttle, from 30 feet away. You KNOW you are being attacked by some means / with some intention, and you fear for your safety, for your very life. But you don't know if this guy coming at you is young or old, armed or unarmed... you're not even certain yet if he's acting alone. It's a blitz attack, and in another second & a half, he'll be on you.
    What are you going to do?
    In NC, it's an eminent threat of death or great bodily harm or sexual assault. If either of those apply, go bang. Don't wait too long, the attacker will be upon you in an instant. Each person feels different. What I think is an eminent threat of death, or great bodily harm, someone else, might not see it as a threat at all. that's a decision that each individual must make own his own. I tell my students to rehearse in their mind different situations and be ready to react and never let an attacker get within arms length. If he has a knife, you could have a cut throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin mosley View Post
    I'd like to add fuel to the fire here with a new WHAT-IF:

    Say it's dark, vision is limited. A sketchy looking character charges DIRECTLY at you, full throttle, from 30 feet away. You KNOW you are being attacked by some means / with some intention, and you fear for your safety, for your very life. But you don't know if this guy coming at you is young or old, armed or unarmed... you're not even certain yet if he's acting alone. It's a blitz attack, and in another second & a half, he'll be on you.
    What are you going to do?
    What ifs are good... A good tactical flashlight is a great addition to any "survival kit". You could see the weapon if he/she has one. Also works to disorient them when the light is in their eyes. It could give you the needed time to get the other tool out (knife or firearm) or at least side step the knockdown, which could be their weapon and a good light, will give you a clearer sight picture.

    Kind of hard to say what would or could happen in this case. Blitzkrieg is a very effective way to create confusion and cause hesitation which will work in the attackers favor.
    Etymology: German, from Blitz= lightning + Krieg= war...

    Chances are if the assailant is charging you, youth is at work here.

    Most normal people intent on meeting you or making your acquaintance with peaceful intentions will approach you slowly. Again that’s most not all… So with someone charging at you, going to have to rule it threat and react quickly.
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    In Pennsylvania, the rule in general is that if you can retreat, you must retreat. Again, it's hard to draw real concrete lines on this issue.
    At a "Non-Violent Crisis Intervention" training, I was told that at 20 to 30 feet away, an attacker could be on top of you before you could start evading/blocking,etc, depending on your reaction time and the attacker's leg muscles, drug use, psychosis, or all of the above.

  5. From personal experience. I would say that you wont be measuring. If you want to survive and or protect . Stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micpl View Post
    From personal experience. I would say that you wont be measuring. If you want to survive and or protect . Stupid question.
    Love it!

    As for me it is simple; if I feel my life is at risk, I will defend my self. I don't care if you are 20' away with a rock, or 100 yards away with a rifle. or at my car window with a gun. A threat is a threat.
    "Work Hard, Do Your Best, Keep Your Word, Never Get Too Big For Your Britches, Trust In God and Never Forget a Friend. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGH View Post
    I was talking to a person last night that said that before they would draw and fire a threat woould have to be within 5 feet. I passed on that at 21 feet that it takes little over a second to close the distance etc. Stil this person was dead set on that distance.
    Here is what I am wanting to know at what distance do you see a person a threat that would cause you to draw and then to fire?
    I just read this initial post again and had a thought...

    Measure your distance at any given time to the location of Barack Obama... I'd call that a threat...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Studies say that most self-defense shootings take place within 5-7 feet. So chances are, it's gonna be personal and up close. But if I see a couple of guys with guns running across a street in my direction, it could be 10-15 yards. I do most of my range shooting at about 25 feet, with silhouettes...don't do a lot of target stuff. And I hope that I never have to pull my gun on anyone closer than that.
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    Obviously, thinking things through at the last minute won't work. One must decide way in advance what his options are, if he is willing to shoot another human being, if he (or she) can deal with the legal implications, and what his or her gates to that decision are. By gates, I mean something like nutnfancy's "unlock codes" or the USMC's Cooper Color Code. Tactical training with lots of fore-thinking will make the decision a matter of conditions and actions. For me, in this case, I KNOW I am being attacked and I KNOW I will be killed if I don't act. Fire!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin mosley View Post
    I'd like to add fuel to the fire here with a new WHAT-IF:

    Say it's dark, vision is limited. A sketchy looking character charges DIRECTLY at you, full throttle, from 30 feet away. You KNOW you are being attacked by some means / with some intention, and you fear for your safety, for your very life. But you don't know if this guy coming at you is young or old, armed or unarmed... you're not even certain yet if he's acting alone. It's a blitz attack, and in another second & a half, he'll be on you.
    What are you going to do?
    I am going to add a new twist to kevin's post.

    A sketchy looking character is walking DIRECTLY towards you. You KNOW that you are going to be:
    1. Asked for directions. 2. Pan handled. 3. Mugged. You have your favorite concealed handgun on your person.
    What do you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    I am going to add a new twist to kevin's post.

    A sketchy looking character is walking DIRECTLY towards you. You KNOW that you are going to be:
    1. Asked for directions. 2. Pan handled. 3. Mugged. You have your favorite concealed handgun on your person.
    What do you do?
    In low light condition.
    Keep a hand on it. Ready to draw it and keep it close, with left hand holding a flashlight turn it on and light the character up. I know of no law that states you can't illuminate a stranger approaching you. It will indicate to them that you are aware of their presence. It will also serve to create blindness and may panic them. If they intend you harm they will be on edge and possibly nervous already. It will allow you to better ID them. Shooting a pan-handler or a lost pedestrian will get you in trouble. Need not say more...

    In daylight condition.
    Keep eyes focused on them and keep hand on the grip of your weapon. Keep them at a distance if possible do not back into a wall or other tight space. If possible move out of their path. If they redirect and attempt to cross paths or remain focused on you then I would have to say it's more than directions or loose pocket change they may be after. Move away with a purpose and keep checking their location. If they pursue its game on start dialing 911 now. If possible get to a place where other people are. Witnesses. If you are alone and no others are around and you are still being pursued, time to make a stand and let them know you are not the easy mark. Dial 911 quickly and report it if they flee. Dial 911 and report it if you have to shoot..

    Just my opinion... with some input from LEO friends.
    Good "What if?"...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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