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  1. You go buddy !

    I rehtorically ask my wife . When the stuff hits the fan would you rather have 10 with firearms in the room with you or 10 with none. ( she gets my concealed carry someday when she is full time resident she will get hers . My guess anti firearms people are lying if they say no . You mean to tell me they have never been in fear for their life ? If they say no they are liars . How could anyone that does live in todays world say that . Even with my permit some " shakey " people make me in yellow alert . I wouner what anti gun people would say ?

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Hiliner View Post
    Has actually been on my CC permit application. My family know I carry and a couple of friends but I keep it to myself usually. A couple of years ago I never dreamed I would but with what I see going on in our culture along with a personal event which took place in our home, I decided it was time. I am a minister by occupation and live in a small town in a very rural area, many miles from the county seat, with response time from a deputy, if one is available being too long. Evil is present in our culture and I don't believe in being a victim. We had a situation where a transient ended up in our living room on a Super Bowel Sunday and wouldn't leave. Too long a story to go into but it was then I decided to carry. If someone were to ask me I will tell them it is for personal protection and then relate my story...if that doesn't convince them...too bad.
    Christians and . . .guns do go together ! I meet them all the time in Vegas ( yes there are many ! )

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    It's a simple point to counter...when someone suggests that only punks live in bad neighborhoods. It doesn't matter what kind of neighborhood you live in. Punks nowadays have cars<G>. I.E., they don't stay in their neighborhoods and they DO travel to neighborhoods that are more affluent. That's where the MONEY is!! And that's where they go to get it. Even in a "good" neighborhood, GET YOURSELF ARMED!!

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    To antagonize in order to mirandize was never my idea of good police work. The question is potentially confrontational, as some people become ‘disorderly’ when harassed. It’s the equivalent to saying… ‘I can screw with you and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it’. In fact, I'm surprised to hear this may still be an issue. I believe this topic is now covered in some P.O.S.T. certification courses, under ‘reasonable search and seizure.’
    “Monsters are real and so are ghosts. They live inside of us, and sometimes they win.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saber View Post
    To antagonize in order to mirandize was never my idea of good police work. The question is potentially confrontational, as some people become ‘disorderly’ when harassed. It’s the equivalent to saying… ‘I can screw with you and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it’. In fact, I'm surprised to hear this may still be an issue. I believe this topic is now covered in some P.O.S.T. certification courses, under ‘reasonable search and seizure.’
    Bravo to you! I wish all your brothers and sisters were the same. I have had two non-criminal encounters with female police. Both were bad. One was lazy and ignorant. One was obnoxious and a liar , and called me a liar.
    I don't like female police as a result. They aren't trained, nor do they act in America, like they do in Israel. A woman in Israel with training is one to be respected and feared. She can handle a man very easily. The ones we have here that I have met, are pathetic. I'm sure there are good ones. I just haven't met one yet.

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    "[A]ll is retained which has not been surrendered." -- U.S. V Darby, 1941
    "Never retreat. Never surrender." -- "300", 2006

    In all honesty, if I were asked that by anyone who thought they had authority over me, my response would be, "You have no authority to ask that question, so I'm going to do us both a big favour. I'm not going to answer it."
    When they "Nudge. Shove. Shoot.",
    Don't retreat. Just reload.

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    I have copies of this on hand, and freely pass it out. Best answer I've ever seen to why I carry a gun......

    CCW is a Civilized Act......, by Marko Kloos

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
    Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt, can we be certain, without doubt, that they will never be employed....... John F. Kennedy
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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    "[A]ll is retained which has not been surrendered." -- U.S. V Darby, 1941
    "Never retreat. Never surrender." -- "300", 2006

    In all honesty, if I were asked that by anyone who thought they had authority over me, my response would be, "You have no authority to ask that question, so I'm going to do us both a big favour. I'm not going to answer it."
    You could also be a real insulter and reply:
    " I carry a gun so I can shoot people that ask multiple stupid questions. You've already asked one. Do you care to continue? "

    I'm gonna try that next time somebody asks me that question, just to see what the response is. LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOV5 View Post
    You could also be a real insulter and reply:
    " I carry a gun so I can shoot people that ask multiple stupid questions. You've already asked one. Do you care to continue? "

    I'm gonna try that next time somebody asks me that question, just to see what the response is. LOL!
    uhh, you might want to be sure whoever you tell that to isn't a LEO...... he/she might not be impressed.
    Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt, can we be certain, without doubt, that they will never be employed....... John F. Kennedy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    uhh, you might want to be sure whoever you tell that to isn't a LEO...... he/she might not be impressed.
    I'm sure not. Armed dude with a 'tude, no doubt. Bad combination.

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