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  1. Thanks for posting. I think people should all think of these scenarios in their mind and train themselves how to react. We have a neighborhood in my city that has a lot of shootings and I would not unholster there unless the guns were pointed at me. Let them shoot themselves. I do believe in the Sheepdog mentality though and if I am understanding the situation correctly and lives can be saved, I will unholster and close to encounter.

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    I have read the original posting and concur. To the following posters, I have stated it before and will state it again, "if you come at me or mine then at least one of us is going to die."

    I will be a good citizen and call 911 from cover. I will try to disrupt the encounter from cover. I will return fire if fired upon from cover if I have time to get there.

    I am not a LEO. I am not a white knight. If I die then who will protect and care for my family?
    The Second Amendment is about the right to be able to protect oneself from all who would do us harm including Legislators! I came into this world screaming and covered in someone Else's blood, don't care if I go out the same way

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    O.K. here it is. Most of us like to think we know exactly how we will react in a given situation but the fact is until it happens it is hard to say. So the following is what I would like to think I would do. If it is not my money then under most circumstances and again I say most I will not risk my life nor place a family member in peril for something that is not mine. Would I intervene to protect someone else? I can not give a blanket answer to that. It all depends on a lot of variables. There definitely could be cases that I can envision that I would find it most impossible to stand by and watch when a sheep is being attacked by a raving wolf. My main responsibility first and foremost is to my family and myself. Anything else is a maybe.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  5. I thought of this kind of scenerio before I even applied for my permit. I personally will not go out of my way to save another human-being. I do not feel like dealing with the courts or risking myself going through hell for another human.

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    Hey HK4U and charliej47: Appreciate realistic and responsible answers to this overall "what if". I tend to read too many replies from all the "warriors" out there who are ready to do battle and kill at the drop of a hat with the "I worked hard for everything I got and NO ONE is going to take any of it and they will die if they try" attitude--personally, as HK said, they may talk a big talk sitting at their computers in their underwear cranking away, but the walk is a lot different if the slime is bigger and badder than you, not to mention the ultimate consequences of the law, which can be pretty clear on what you can and cannot do.
    Hey midnight: Understand where you are coming from. In SC, we do have the alter ego rule which pretty much insulates you from any and all criminal and civil penalties if you come to someone's rescue as if the attack and imminent danger of death or great bodily injury were actually happening to you. The problem with this, of course, is that you really cannot be sure what started the problem and who the bad guy(s) is/are--could be that the person you are helping is really the bad guy--so I agree that it almost requires the wisdom of Solomon to know the real story--better you call 911 or somehow try to do something but not somethingthat entangles you in the mess to the point that your firearm is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey jsdinTexas: You are absolutely right in your comment/reply. It amazes me when I put the brakes on "what ifs" in some of my replies when I use a cautionary approach to deadly defense, particularly when it involves someone breaking into my home. In my case my wife and I are the only people in the house (it is wholly different if someone has children or others living in other areas of the home), I lock and secure my bedroom and will do everything sensible (activate car alarm, call 911 etc), but WILL NOT leave my bedroom as someone is rummaging thru my "stuff"---stuff is insured and stuff is not imminent danger of loss of life or great bodily injury. The perp or perps may be better armed and better shots than me and I do not intend to lose my life over stuff, but the responses from some of our fellow forum members (and I do understand where they are coming from--"hard work for me to get my stuff and I ain't letting anyone take it") is confront and shoot. In SC, a home breakin is sufficient cause for me to do whatever I want in my home, including confront and shoot-no questions asked, on the presumption that it is a reasonable assumption of death or great bodily injury but in my book, it is not worth the possible loss of my life because someone, who may be bigger and badder and more armd than me, is taking stuff. My hope is that the LEOs arrive in appropriate time, that the stuff will be recovered at a pawn shop (many times that is what happens) ,and the stuff is replaceable with insurance money, but my life is not recoverable. Iif they force their way into my bedroom,however, all bets are off and I am very well prepared with the arms and the strategy to deal with them in a very convincing manner.
    In Texas the CHL laws state deadly force is only defendable if the BG is stealing something that you "reasonably believe" can not be replaced (insurance does replace). So we can't use DF just cause the BG is running off with the TV

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    I personally will not go out of my way to save another human-being. .
    Wow! Holly ********* Wow!!

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    Hey jsdinTexas: Texas law on "stuff" sounds about right to me. In my book, "stuff" just is not worth my life if I find I am going up against someone who is better armed and more proficient than I ("man must know his limitations"-Dirty Harry). I am sure, though, in Texas, if someone breaks into your home there is automatically a "reasonable assumption of imminent death or great bodily injury" by the act of forced entry alone--regardless of insured "stuff" or uninsured "stuff". There have been cases in Texas where the news information certainly leads to a conclusion that your comment is not always backed up by prosecutors who seem to "lean" toward the homeowner in any case of homeowner/gunowner vs a perp. Everything said above pretty well mimics the law here in SC and I'm glad I live here instead of some of these insane progressive/liberal states andrsidents who will be confused even as they face execution at the hands of a piece of garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey jsdinTexas: Texas law on "stuff" sounds about right to me. In my book, "stuff" just is not worth my life if I find I am going up against someone who is better armed and more proficient than I ("man must know his limitations"-Dirty Harry). I am sure, though, in Texas, if someone breaks into your home there is automatically a "reasonable assumption of imminent death or great bodily injury" by the act of forced entry alone--regardless of insured "stuff" or uninsured "stuff". There have been cases in Texas where the news information certainly leads to a conclusion that your comment is not always backed up by prosecutors who seem to "lean" toward the homeowner in any case of homeowner/gunowner vs a perp. Everything said above pretty well mimics the law here in SC and I'm glad I live here instead of some of these insane progressive/liberal states andrsidents who will be confused even as they face execution at the hands of a piece of garbage.
    Allow me to clarify here: if the BG is in the house, they are fair game at any time, with little exception, (Castle Doctrine) but I was speaking of if you see the BG running down the street with your 'stuff'. A BG shot in the back and laying over your TV in the middle of the street is going to bring down some scrutiny. And the Castle applies to the property as a whole, so the BG can be hammered in the front yard, in your vehicle parked on your property, and so on. The key to using "deadly force" is and has always been "to stop the threat." And the guy running away with the TV is not a threat that justifies using deadly force in Texas. However, force (not deadly force) can be used to apprehend and confine until the police show up.

    Please be aware that I would council anyone that is licensed to carry to absolutely know the laws of their state concerning gun usage and the do's and don't's of what is legal. I make these comments based on what Texas law says, and it does not apply to other states - all gun owners MUST know their own state's laws. For instance, Texas has conditions of the use of force vs deadly force based on things like burglary vs burglary at night.

    And before I make statements online, I look up the specific law here in the Lone Star State to be sure I am correct and not simply trying to show my smarts or opinion. And I think we all on this site should do that - if one doesn't really know a law and just doing an opinion-type thing it should be stated.

    Hope this doesn't sound like I am getting on you or anyone - not my intention - but I have read some stuff on this and other forums that are more opinion than fact, and makes me do a double take occasionally.

  11. Iowa is a shall retreat State. Hopefully we can get that changed to a Castle doctrine enviroment here in the future. We won here this spring to "Shall issue" so hopefully we are gaining ground!

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