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  1. #11
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    I carry bonded jacketed hollow points same as the local PD...already a good idea and proven for both reliability and liability...not too much bullet, readily available off the shelf items...marked personal defense on the box by the MFG.
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    I would assume that any lawyer would use whatever he/she could to win the case. If it meant they had to make you look bad in front of the jury, they would do it. However, equally, there is a lawyer on the other side of the court room who will try to make you look good as well.

    However, personally, I use the same type of ammo for defense as our local Sheriff's department uses.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
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    I mentioned this in another thread, Massad Ayoob has written about this, try googling it to find it and learn something!

  5. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare45 View Post
    Homeland security just bought a ton of hollow points, how deadly, all bullets are deadly!!!!!!!!!!
    In NJ, HP ammo is legal for LEO's, but not for the rest of us. Hypocrites. Really, it's too kind a word for these "civil servants."
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  6. #15
    Guess you don't want to have your knife too sharp either, making it more deadly.
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  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by xd40scinnc View Post
    guess you don't want to have your knife too sharp either, making it more deadly.
    lol.............
    War to the Knife, Knife to the hilt.
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  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by fudo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare45 View Post
    Homeland security just bought a ton of hollow points, how deadly, all bullets are deadly!!!!!!!!!!
    In NJ, HP ammo is legal for LEO's, but not for the rest of us. Hypocrites. Really, it's too kind a word for these "civil servants."
    The people writing the laws are imbeciles that fancy themselves experts on everything. It's same reason Teflon-coated bullets are illegal in several states. Some idiot started claiming they could pierce Kevlar jackets, and calling them "cop killers." The term went viral, and boom...legislature is passed without hesitation, or any basis in science or ballistics. Know what else can pierce a cops "bullet proof" jacket? Any FMJ rifle round bigger than a .204 as well as several standard handgun rounds. Teflon coating does absolutely nothing but reduce barrel wear...morons.

    It'd be a real shame for one of my FMJ rounds to over-penetrate my attacker and hit one of those senators' wives because he made hollow-points illegal.

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    The use of reloads has been an issue in court on several occasions. Don't load them in your carry gun.
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    Don't use Hornady "Zombie Max" ammo in your carry gun. It says not for use on humans on the box and a trial lawyer would almost certainly twist that against you in court. Yes, it's the same as their critical defense ammo with a different color plastic plug, but a jury won't know and a lawyer won't care.
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    In the end it all comes down to the prosecutor and how bad he/she wants to nail you, and that usually depends on how justifiable your shooting was. A crappy prosecutor will be after you no matter what, but others will only try to nail you if the circumstances of your incident were questionable or, heaven forbid, bad. For prosecutors out for blood, they'll use whatever they can, whether it makes sense or not. They've attempted to demonize gun owners simply for the use of hollow point ammunition in some cases. Arguments such as that are usually easy to deflect by pointing out that the police use the same type of ammunition, but arguments take lawyers and court time, and those cost you dearly even when you win the case, so it's best to avoid them entirely by being wise ahead of time. So think about stuff like what's written on the box of zombie ammo and what the media did to demonize Black Talons several years back. There's no logical reason why either one of those rounds should be a problem. But our court system, and especially lawyers and juries, aren't always logical. Both of those ammo types would very likely be a source of problems if they were involved in a court case over a contentious shooting, so why risk it?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    I mentioned this in another thread, Massad Ayoob has written about this, try googling it to find it and learn something!
    If you really want to learn something, try researching some of those Ayoob stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyTopGun View Post
    If you really want to learn something, try researching some of those Ayoob stories.
    are you inferring that Mas is not a credible source of info?

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