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    Quote Originally Posted by JimTh View Post
    And...to steal a line fom Brad Pitt in the movie "Seven" when he was talking to co star Kevin Spacey "When you are sitting around reading your guns and ammo magazine and masturbating in your own feces, do you ever stop and wonder just how insane you are?" piss in your own jug jackass! Are you a troll?
    Nope not a troll. People seem to hate it when I bring to light the idiocy that rolls off their tongues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whodat2710 View Post
    The interesting thing is that no one, on here or in the paper, seemed outraged by

    1. 14 year old - professional thief, then "sure" like that's the norm.

    2. How do you know? Why would the specific comment about him being to scared to aim at the grass come up?

    3. Raised by his older brother (one of eight children), not by his mother... A brother who thinks it is normal that the 14 year old is a "professional thief", and proud that he is scared of guns.
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    -Do I think we know the whole story? no.
    -Do I think he overreacted? not enough info.
    -Did the kid look 14 in the photo? maybe, but he looked like a 14yr old wannabe thug. At 2am this would be amplified.
    -Would I be more concerned with his age or his actions a 2am in my fenced yard? hmmm.
    -Would I go outside to confront him? probably not, but if my dog was barking his head off I would probably want to know why, which might lead to a confrontation.
    -If he saw me and then reached for something (considering he didn't run away when the dog started barking) would I shoot? I would give a verbal command of some sort depending on the situation. "stop!", "hands up!" something. but I would definitely be drawn and on target. His non-compliance while on my property inside my fence at 2am would probably force my hand.
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    There was no way for the homeowner to know that the kid was unarmed, just like there was no way for the homeowner to know that he had a criminal record.
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    This may have something to do with why the homeowner reacted the way he did. Not sayin' it couldn't or shouldn't have been handled better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gejoslin View Post
    This may have something to do with why the homeowner reacted the way he did. Not sayin' it couldn't or shouldn't have been handled better.
    I am from New Orleans, and we moved away in the late 70's because of crime. That was before widespread gang violence, crack, etc. Everyone thinks of New Orleans as the few blocks of Bourbon St. They don't know that N.O. is frequently in the running for murder capitol of the US, right up there with Chicago, DC and Detroit. There's also the fact that there has been rampant corruption within law enforcement and the government. I don't know if this is still the case, but it has been widely publ;icized in the not to distant past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dad45acp View Post
    Do you always rely on news stories to bring truth into your life?

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    Not always, but hey, while we are still at it....Here's yet another recent example;

    ABC says it's reviewing arrest of UVa student who bought bottled water - The Daily Progress: Local
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    Not always, but hey, while we are still at it....Here's yet another recent example;

    ABC says it's reviewing arrest of UVa student who bought bottled water - The Daily Progress: Local
    Impressed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Several comments:
    1. Yes there are lawyers and $$ and everything else under the sun when it comes to this asylum known as the US. A good shoot has absolution of any civil liability in the State of SC. That does not mean you cannot sue. Then again, if this is your basis for deciding what to do, then I would advise selling your firearm--in this asylum literally anything you will do with your firearm will get you into court one way or another so the argument on a "large price to pay" will come up regardless of anything you do short of letting the BG get his way.
    2. Liberals? Antigunners?--SC is a very very red state. Its governor will support any and all bills designed to increase the ability to own and use a firearm for self defense. Heck if it ever got passed she would support OC. BTW during the big hooha over Sandy Hook, SC was debating extension of CC to include restaurants/bars. We also have a tax-free weekend for the purchase of firearms--so much for anti-gunners.
    So either shoot or sell my firearm? The civil liability is federal, for which SC law cannot interfere. Show me any book or curriculum that says shoot a trespasser and I'll accept it. That's the person who needs to surrender their firearm. There are people in this world, myself included, who would destroy your life, your family, your assets and your kids financial futures for shooting my family member over trespass. You gotta believe I'm only limited by my own imagination. And everything would be legal. I never go away. My sole purpose to financially destroy such a person.
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    In the end you shot a trespasser. Not a dangerous person. Not a person who posed imminent harm or a deadly threat. A trespasser. You lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    So either shoot or sell my firearm? The civil liability is federal, for which SC law cannot interfere. Show me any book or curriculum that says shoot a trespasser and I'll accept it. That's the person who needs to surrender their firearm. There are people in this world, myself included, who would destroy your life, your family, your assets and your kids financial futures for shooting my family member over trespass. You gotta believe I'm only limited by my own imagination. And everything would be legal. I never go away. My sole purpose to financially destroy such a person.
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    In the end you shot a trespasser. Not a dangerous person. Not a person who posed imminent harm or a deadly threat. A trespasser. You lose.
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    "This man wanted to shoot me down... over NOTHIN. He lost"... Kevin Costner; Wyatt Earp.
    Federal law? Do you mean the Obama/Holden manifesto that they decide on what and when they will interfere. Castle Doctrine in SC is literally absolute. You force your way into my home and you will not do it again--it is imminent danger to my family and I guarantee you that you will not do it again. As far as trespass--I assume we are talking about a bump in the night out on my driveway or parked car or on my lawn. As I have said, try it in SC and you will be surely sorry you tried it---I hear or see you on my property at 2 in the morning I can PRESUME your felonious actions (at night-this is only at night) and effect a citizens arrest and you try to run away you will be very sorry. Let me make it perfectly clear that I am stating what you can and cannot do in SC under the law; I am not saying, short of you coming into my home, which is automatic imminent danger under the laws of SC, that I am interested in using my firearm to protect say my car out in the driveway---SC law says I can if I effect citizens arrest but my firearm is meant to protect my family and myself and not "stuff". There is plenty of case law (BTW without your supposed Federal civil liability) where BGs have been shot when they decide that someone's truck parked in the driveway is theirs for the taking and guess what---prosecutors decline to bring charges. Even in my home, if there should be a bump in the night, I am not leaving my locked bedroom to protect my stuff, which is insured and replaceable--I am also insured but not replaceable and I am not going to find out if the BG is better at gunstuff than me. He defeats my bedroom door, it will be the worst mistake he ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    So either shoot or sell my firearm? The civil liability is federal, for which SC law cannot interfere.
    BC, check your math on this one. A civil law suit is just a non-criminal proceeding that can be local, state federal etc. I think you are referring to a "civil rights" suit.
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    Should we use deadly force on a trespasser? If the trespasser make a threating move (home owner said he did), you might have to. If you use deadly force expect the worse, but maybe we should send a message, that if you trespass, and threaten the home owner, you should expect the worse also. The trespasser made a decision, and IMHO, it was a bad one, like the many bad decisions he had been making for much of his life. Seem like so many people want to punish the home owner for minding his business.
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