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    Hey Scouse: You say "position of strength". I say "man has to know his limitations" and if there is one person out there, there may 2 or 3 watching. Granted most are amateurs and stupid ones at that but for the sake of stuff I am not going to die if my "position of strength" is horribly compromised.

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    I can't believe that this "STUFF" some people are trying to steal is so insuffinicant to some on this thread because you say it's insured. "Don't worry about it".
    This stuff is the fruits of my labor. This stuff I earned was through my continuing strive to provide for myself and family though countless years of effort by no one but me. I also have to labor even more now to buy insurance in case this stuff is stolen. JUST so I can eat the thousand dollar deductable that I will never see again. PROPERTY RIGHTS are fundamentally guaranteed in this Country. IF some of you want to give away those RIGHTS that is totally up to you. BUT DON'T TREAD ON MY RIGHTS. This passive outlook some of you have on this thread aides and abets the continued premise that promotes the Gov't to take the fruits of your labor. You don't care that a thief takes your "STUFF" why should you care if the Gov't takes it either.
    Sorry Gents and Ladies and those of you in between, BUT I will not stand by and watch my "STUFF" stole, confiscated or possessed by another without a fight. Unless I expressly give permission to possess my property, you better watch out around me and my "STUFF". MY stuff is protected by me, remember, the one who earned it!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    PROPERTY RIGHTS are fundamentally guaranteed in this Country.
    Really? Can I get a copy of that? Death and taxes are about the only things I would consider "guaranteed."

    Everything else is negotiable.

    Negotiate from a position of strength.

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    [QUOTE=Cocked _and_Locked;165039]Really? Can I get a copy of that? Death and taxes are about the only things I would consider "guaranteed."

    Everything else is negotiable.

    Negotiate from a position of strength.[/QUOTE]

    +1.............ALWAYS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey Scouse: You say "position of strength". I say "man has to know his limitations" and if there is one person out there, there may 2 or 3 watching. Granted most are amateurs and stupid ones at that but for the sake of stuff I am not going to die if my "position of strength" is horribly compromised.
    Kelcarry,

    My last post was just an exercise, I have nothing outside my home to steal. Where I live, Orange County arrive real quick when called, so as I have said just, an exercise.

    But having expressed my opinion, times they are getting tougher!

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    Hey Scouse: Seems like everyone has their priorities. I have no problem with mappow going outside his house and blasting away if he sees someone running off with his lawnmower--I wish I could do the same but I understand the limitations of the law in SC and shooting someone outside my house over stuff is not part of the law IMO--it could be depending on how a prosecutor etc feels about it (sort of like the original thread's case) but that is not a guarantee that you will not be prosecuted, particularly if you end up killing someone.I also understand my own limits and the possibility that the "other guy" is a lot better at this and better prepared than I and to die over a lawnmower (me or him) is ridiculous as far as I am concerned--again, if it keeps mappow secure, happy and satisfied--great--all the more power to him but if he cannot understand what I am saying without an angry retort, I can only shrug and and shake my head. Lets face it, LEOs exist to investigate, not to protect--they are minutes away but my firearm is less than a second away--I will use it to protect myself and family against imminent danger according to the law, but not use it over a lawnmower or "stuff", like mappow so eloquently endorses. I sincerely wish you well and understand what you are saying mappow but I happen to sincerely disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey Scouse: Seems like everyone has their priorities. I have no problem with mappow going outside his house and blasting away if he sees someone running off with his lawnmower

    Never posted anything like that
    " but if he cannot understand what I am saying without an angry retort"

    What did I post that sounded angry? Merely stated that some on this thread are willing to let your "STUFF" be stolen without any intervention on your part. That kind of thinking has perpetuated the erosion of property rights and has abetted further stealing of other property.

    "but not use it over a lawnmower or "stuff", like mappow so eloquently endorses". .
    Again, still don't know what you have against Lawnmowers. Unfortunately the 4 other posts on this thread seems to evaded you as well with my meaning. Probably my fault for not being clearer in my writing.
    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Thumbs down Bias against lawnmowers

    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    Again, still don't know what you have against Lawnmowers. Unfortunately the 4 other posts on this thread seems to evaded you as well with my meaning. Probably my fault for not being clearer in my writing.
    Yeah, I've been known to make a few extra bucks as a lawnmower. What gives?

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    hey mappow: Hopefully we are all on the same side in this forum. I apologize for any upsetting comments and certainly understand members who have worked hard for their possessions and are not going to stand by while some slime just helps himself. As I have said, I also understand (I believe) the law as it is currently written and my take is my firearm only comes out based on the words written in the law. In South Carolina, castle doctrine tells me that anyone who enters my occupied house is in a heap of trouble and may never leave my house the way they came in; likewise if I am in my car and they attempt entry. Outside of those situations, everything becomes a bit more muddy in interpretation (unless they are armed) and more difficult for me to essentially elevate the situation to the need for my firearm by confronting someone who may be better at this than I am. Hopefully none of us will have to deal with such decisions and have a CCW only because we can. Peace my fellow forum member and god bless. PS: Most of my property is pine straw and plants--no need for a lawnmower.

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    The way I look at it is:

    Go Darwin!
    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.

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